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From: stigge@antcom.de (Roland Stigge)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH RFC 2/6 v3] gpio: Add sysfs support to block GPIO API
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:38:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <507C8268.5030409@antcom.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdZmg4+7Zjm2UJktt1uKvytUW3uaYtKz0nJvLeM2MMSV-Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 15/10/12 22:30, Linus Walleij wrote:
> I don't like it either, basically because the GPIO sysfs is not
> entirely sound.
> 
> Another patch that is circulating concerns edge triggers and similar,
> and it appear that some parts of the GPIO sysfs is for example
> redefining and exporting IRQchip properties like trigger edge
> in sysfs, while the settings of the irqchip actually used by the driver
> is not reflected in the other direction. So you can *set* these things
> by writing in the GPIO sysfs, but never trust what you *read* from
> there. And you can set what edges an IRQ will trigger on a certain
> GPIO, and the way to handle the IRQs from usespace is to poll
> on a value. This is not really documented but well ...

I'm not convinced this generally also applies to the block GPIO patches.
Or that it can't be fixed.

> The reason an ioctl() IMO is better suited to do the job is that
> it can properly represent a multiple-value operation on several
> GPIOs at the same time in a struct, and it can conversely inform
> userspace about which GPIOs may be a block of signals that
> can be fired simultaneously instead of going to string parsing
> and binary values in sysfs which look like worse hacks to me.

There is no binary values in the sysfs for the block GPIO patches, and
regarding string parsing - yes, that's sysfs. :-)

Roland

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From: Roland Stigge <stigge@antcom.de>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Grant Likely" <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	"Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD" <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com>,
	"Daniel Glöckner" <daniel-gl@gmx.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, w.sang@pengutronix.de,
	jbe@pengutronix.de, highguy@gmail.com,
	broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/6 v3] gpio: Add sysfs support to block GPIO API
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:38:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <507C8268.5030409@antcom.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdZmg4+7Zjm2UJktt1uKvytUW3uaYtKz0nJvLeM2MMSV-Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 15/10/12 22:30, Linus Walleij wrote:
> I don't like it either, basically because the GPIO sysfs is not
> entirely sound.
> 
> Another patch that is circulating concerns edge triggers and similar,
> and it appear that some parts of the GPIO sysfs is for example
> redefining and exporting IRQchip properties like trigger edge
> in sysfs, while the settings of the irqchip actually used by the driver
> is not reflected in the other direction. So you can *set* these things
> by writing in the GPIO sysfs, but never trust what you *read* from
> there. And you can set what edges an IRQ will trigger on a certain
> GPIO, and the way to handle the IRQs from usespace is to poll
> on a value. This is not really documented but well ...

I'm not convinced this generally also applies to the block GPIO patches.
Or that it can't be fixed.

> The reason an ioctl() IMO is better suited to do the job is that
> it can properly represent a multiple-value operation on several
> GPIOs at the same time in a struct, and it can conversely inform
> userspace about which GPIOs may be a block of signals that
> can be fired simultaneously instead of going to string parsing
> and binary values in sysfs which look like worse hacks to me.

There is no binary values in the sysfs for the block GPIO patches, and
regarding string parsing - yes, that's sysfs. :-)

Roland

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-15 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-12 19:11 [PATCH RFC 0/6 v3] gpio: Add block GPIO Roland Stigge
2012-10-12 19:11 ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-12 19:11 ` [PATCH RFC 1/6 v3] gpio: Add a block GPIO API to gpiolib Roland Stigge
2012-10-12 19:11   ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-15  5:20   ` Ryan Mallon
2012-10-15  5:20     ` Ryan Mallon
2012-10-15 17:20     ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-15 17:20       ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-15 22:05       ` Ryan Mallon
2012-10-15 22:05         ` Ryan Mallon
2012-10-15 22:55         ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-15 22:55           ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-15 19:56   ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-15 19:56     ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-12 19:11 ` [PATCH RFC 2/6 v3] gpio: Add sysfs support to block GPIO API Roland Stigge
2012-10-12 19:11   ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-15  5:35   ` Ryan Mallon
2012-10-15  5:35     ` Ryan Mallon
2012-10-15 18:01     ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-15 18:01       ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-15 18:07   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-15 18:07     ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-15 18:15     ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-15 18:15       ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-15 18:19     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-10-15 18:19       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-10-15 20:30       ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-15 20:30         ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-15 21:38         ` Roland Stigge [this message]
2012-10-15 21:38           ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-16  8:43         ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-16  8:43           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-18  4:38         ` Daniel Glöckner
2012-10-18  4:38           ` Daniel Glöckner
2012-10-19 10:29           ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-19 10:29             ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-12 19:11 ` [PATCH RFC 3/6 v3] gpio: Add device tree " Roland Stigge
2012-10-12 19:11   ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-12 19:11 ` [PATCH RFC 4/6 v3] gpio-max730x: Add " Roland Stigge
2012-10-12 19:11   ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-12 19:11 ` [PATCH RFC 5/6 v3] gpio-lpc32xx: " Roland Stigge
2012-10-12 19:11   ` Roland Stigge
2012-10-12 19:11 ` [PATCH RFC 6/6 v3] gpio-generic: " Roland Stigge
2012-10-12 19:11   ` Roland Stigge

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