From: Mitch Bradley <wmb@firmworks.com>
To: balbi@ti.com
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
Sourav Poddar <sourav.poddar@ti.com>,
linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2] Input: omap4-keypad: Add pinctrl support
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:51:22 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5086D91A.5080109@firmworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121023172035.GB32167@arwen.pp.htv.fi>
Perhaps I misunderstood what you were suggesting. I thought that, when
you said "explicitly manage all their resources", you meant that the
driver should know the platform-specific details about clocks and power
domains. That is one possible interpretation of the word "explicit".
Now I see that you meant that the driver should explicitly call
abstracted functions.
On 10/23/2012 7:20 AM, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> HI,
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 07:02:09AM -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote:
>> On 10/23/2012 12:03 AM, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I much prefer having drivers explicitly manage all their resources,
>>> which would mean that pinctrl calls need to be done on probe() and, if
>>> necessary, during suspend()/resume().
>>
>>
>> Per-driver resource management is certainly convenient when you are
>> dealing with a single system, but it becomes difficult to maintain for
>> drivers that are shared among many platforms.
>
> why ? look at drivers/usb/dwc3/, we're using that on OMAP, exynos, PCIe
> and a couple of different FPGA implementations inside TI. Not to mention
> what other licensees of that IP core might have internally.
>
> So far no problesm with resources at all.
>
> We have frameworks exactly to hide the differences.
>
>> The industry trend for many years has been consolidation around a single
>> programming model per class of device. For example, SDHCI, EHCI, ATA.
>> This trend will only accelerate, as the cost of developing controller IP
>> and associated drivers increases. Such drivers need to be as
>> platform-agnostic as possible.
>
> that's why we have pinctrl framework to abstract the details about pin
> muxing.
>
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: wmb@firmworks.com (Mitch Bradley)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCHv2] Input: omap4-keypad: Add pinctrl support
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:51:22 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5086D91A.5080109@firmworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121023172035.GB32167@arwen.pp.htv.fi>
Perhaps I misunderstood what you were suggesting. I thought that, when
you said "explicitly manage all their resources", you meant that the
driver should know the platform-specific details about clocks and power
domains. That is one possible interpretation of the word "explicit".
Now I see that you meant that the driver should explicitly call
abstracted functions.
On 10/23/2012 7:20 AM, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> HI,
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 07:02:09AM -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote:
>> On 10/23/2012 12:03 AM, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I much prefer having drivers explicitly manage all their resources,
>>> which would mean that pinctrl calls need to be done on probe() and, if
>>> necessary, during suspend()/resume().
>>
>>
>> Per-driver resource management is certainly convenient when you are
>> dealing with a single system, but it becomes difficult to maintain for
>> drivers that are shared among many platforms.
>
> why ? look at drivers/usb/dwc3/, we're using that on OMAP, exynos, PCIe
> and a couple of different FPGA implementations inside TI. Not to mention
> what other licensees of that IP core might have internally.
>
> So far no problesm with resources at all.
>
> We have frameworks exactly to hide the differences.
>
>> The industry trend for many years has been consolidation around a single
>> programming model per class of device. For example, SDHCI, EHCI, ATA.
>> This trend will only accelerate, as the cost of developing controller IP
>> and associated drivers increases. Such drivers need to be as
>> platform-agnostic as possible.
>
> that's why we have pinctrl framework to abstract the details about pin
> muxing.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-23 17:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-22 13:13 [PATCHv2] Input: omap4-keypad: Add pinctrl support Sourav Poddar
2012-10-22 13:13 ` Sourav Poddar
2012-10-22 13:13 ` Sourav Poddar
2012-10-22 15:50 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-22 15:50 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-23 9:13 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-23 9:13 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-23 9:35 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-10-23 9:35 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-10-23 9:35 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-10-23 10:04 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-23 10:04 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-23 10:03 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 10:03 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 10:03 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 10:23 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2012-10-23 10:23 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2012-10-23 10:29 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-23 10:29 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-23 10:29 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 10:29 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 10:29 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 10:45 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-23 10:45 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-23 10:42 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 10:42 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 10:42 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 11:11 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2012-10-23 11:11 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2012-10-23 17:02 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-10-23 17:02 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-10-23 17:20 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 17:20 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 17:20 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 17:51 ` Mitch Bradley [this message]
2012-10-23 17:51 ` Mitch Bradley
[not found] ` <5086D91A.5080109-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-23 17:51 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 17:51 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-23 17:51 ` Felipe Balbi
[not found] ` <20121022155028.GA13791-WlK9ik9hQGAhIp7JRqBPierSzoNAToWh@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-23 9:18 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-10-23 9:18 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-10-23 9:18 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-10-23 20:02 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-23 20:02 ` Dmitry Torokhov
[not found] ` <20121023200249.GA2712-WlK9ik9hQGAhIp7JRqBPierSzoNAToWh@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-24 8:37 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 8:37 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 8:37 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 16:14 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 16:14 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 16:51 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-24 16:51 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-24 17:28 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 17:28 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 18:58 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 18:58 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 18:58 ` Felipe Balbi
[not found] ` <20121024185818.GB772-S8G//mZuvNWo5Im9Ml3/Zg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 20:59 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-25 20:59 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-25 20:59 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-26 6:20 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-26 6:20 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-26 6:20 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-26 16:03 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-26 16:03 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-29 19:49 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-29 19:49 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-29 19:49 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 11:24 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 11:24 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 11:49 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 11:49 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 11:49 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 14:07 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 14:07 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 14:16 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-30 14:16 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-30 14:54 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 14:54 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 15:16 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 15:16 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 15:16 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 15:58 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 15:58 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 17:25 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 17:25 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 17:25 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 18:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-30 18:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-30 18:48 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 18:48 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 18:48 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-30 18:37 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 18:37 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 21:51 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-30 21:51 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-30 22:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-10-30 22:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-02 18:26 ` Mark Brown
2012-11-02 18:26 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 14:11 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-30 14:11 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-28 20:12 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-28 20:12 ` Linus Walleij
[not found] ` <CACRpkdaiLXVeUg1quuw3XPTenbKOjn+aWbGQezpcyvzQCtCWow-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-30 11:34 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 11:34 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 11:34 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 14:02 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-30 14:02 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-30 14:37 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-30 14:37 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-31 20:10 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-10-31 20:10 ` Kevin Hilman
[not found] ` <87obji8kta.fsf-1D3HCaltpLuhEniVeURVKkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-01 8:54 ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-01 8:54 ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-01 8:56 ` Fwd: " Linus Walleij
2012-11-01 8:56 ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-01 11:42 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-01 11:42 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-01 13:22 ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-01 13:22 ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-01 12:07 ` Mark Brown
2012-11-01 12:07 ` Mark Brown
2012-11-01 14:01 ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-01 14:01 ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-01 14:19 ` Mark Brown
2012-11-01 14:19 ` Mark Brown
2012-11-11 12:32 ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-11 12:32 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-31 13:19 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-10-31 13:19 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
[not found] ` <20121024161429.GA16350-WlK9ik9hQGAhIp7JRqBPierSzoNAToWh@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-24 16:52 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 16:52 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 16:52 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 17:13 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-24 17:13 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-24 17:34 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 17:34 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 17:46 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-10-24 17:46 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-10-24 17:46 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-10-24 12:54 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-24 12:54 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-24 16:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 16:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 16:57 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 16:57 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 16:57 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 17:18 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-24 17:18 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-24 17:58 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 17:58 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 19:10 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 19:10 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 19:10 ` Felipe Balbi
[not found] ` <20121024191042.GC772-S8G//mZuvNWo5Im9Ml3/Zg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-24 19:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 19:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 19:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-10-24 19:51 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 19:51 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 19:51 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-24 17:01 ` Linus Walleij
2012-10-24 17:01 ` Linus Walleij
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