From: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org,
cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] cgroup: kill CSS_REMOVED
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:19:51 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50915DB7.5020706@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOS58YP=CjTPFdETLRXnc3gXEzX2=EEe2dMdSh3Eov7zRfV4Qg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On 10/31/2012 09:10 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Glauber.
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> This is not the topic of this thread, but since you brought it:
>> If you take a look at the description patch in the patch I sent, the
>> problem I outlined is that at create time, we don't know anything about
>> which will the css_id be - and I would like to avoid creating yet
>> another index.
>>
>> Is there any way you would suggest of handling this ? Any chance of us
>> allocating the css_id earlier then?
>
> I only glanced the patch description but the problem I'm trying to
> solve is locking - currently we don't have a place where a controller
> can tell a cgroup is becoming online; thus it has nothing to
> synchronized against and tell that a cgroup is alive or not. As for
> css_id allocation, maybe you can deal with that in ->post_create() or
> maybe we can allocate css_id earlier (but where would it be stored?).
> I'll look into it.
>
The css_id is allocated right after ->create(). So if post_create() is
called after that, I can use it just fine - which is what I do in my
patch. Problem is, since I do memory allocation based on that, it can fail.
So although I would have to look at your series myself to see exactly
what you are trying to achieve (looking forward), I seemed natural to me
to think about it terms of "early_create" + "late_create" (->create())
and ->post_create()), where the later is a callback when things are
readier (in this case, the css_id).
I don't see post_create failing as a huge problem. The natural
synchronization point would be "right after post_create" - then you can
definitely tell that it is online. Although this can be viewed a bit as
"exposing internals", creating is different then destroying: When you
create, you may not have all data yet. When destroying, you do - and
want to get rid of it. So this kind of bootstrapping is pretty standard
and common.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, <lizefan@huawei.com>,
<hannes@cmpxchg.org>, <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
<kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
<containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
<cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] cgroup: kill CSS_REMOVED
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:19:51 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50915DB7.5020706@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOS58YP=CjTPFdETLRXnc3gXEzX2=EEe2dMdSh3Eov7zRfV4Qg@mail.gmail.com>
On 10/31/2012 09:10 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Glauber.
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com> wrote:
>> This is not the topic of this thread, but since you brought it:
>> If you take a look at the description patch in the patch I sent, the
>> problem I outlined is that at create time, we don't know anything about
>> which will the css_id be - and I would like to avoid creating yet
>> another index.
>>
>> Is there any way you would suggest of handling this ? Any chance of us
>> allocating the css_id earlier then?
>
> I only glanced the patch description but the problem I'm trying to
> solve is locking - currently we don't have a place where a controller
> can tell a cgroup is becoming online; thus it has nothing to
> synchronized against and tell that a cgroup is alive or not. As for
> css_id allocation, maybe you can deal with that in ->post_create() or
> maybe we can allocate css_id earlier (but where would it be stored?).
> I'll look into it.
>
The css_id is allocated right after ->create(). So if post_create() is
called after that, I can use it just fine - which is what I do in my
patch. Problem is, since I do memory allocation based on that, it can fail.
So although I would have to look at your series myself to see exactly
what you are trying to achieve (looking forward), I seemed natural to me
to think about it terms of "early_create" + "late_create" (->create())
and ->post_create()), where the later is a callback when things are
readier (in this case, the css_id).
I don't see post_create failing as a huge problem. The natural
synchronization point would be "right after post_create" - then you can
definitely tell that it is online. Although this can be viewed a bit as
"exposing internals", creating is different then destroying: When you
create, you may not have all data yet. When destroying, you do - and
want to get rid of it. So this kind of bootstrapping is pretty standard
and common.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-31 17:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-31 4:22 [PATCHSET] cgroup: simplify cgroup removal path Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 4:22 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351657365-25055-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 4:22 ` [PATCH 1/8] cgroup: kill cgroup_subsys->__DEPRECATED_clear_css_refs Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 4:22 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351657365-25055-2-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 13:21 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 13:21 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 13:21 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <509125D9.8070100-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 16:38 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 16:38 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 14:37 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-31 14:37 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-31 14:37 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20121031143751.GA22809-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 16:41 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 16:41 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121031164123.GD2945-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 16:48 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-31 16:48 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20121031164855.GI22809-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:22 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 17:22 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 16:41 ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-02 9:23 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-02 9:23 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-02 9:23 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31 4:22 ` [PATCH 2/8] cgroup: kill CSS_REMOVED Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 4:22 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351657365-25055-3-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 15:39 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-31 15:39 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20121031153926.GC22809-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 16:57 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 16:57 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121031165739.GE2945-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:06 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 17:06 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <50915A87.4070504-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:10 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 17:10 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <CAOS58YP=CjTPFdETLRXnc3gXEzX2=EEe2dMdSh3Eov7zRfV4Qg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:19 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-10-31 17:19 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <50915DB7.5020706-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:25 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 17:25 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121031172522.GJ2945-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:38 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 17:38 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <50916218.3090301-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:44 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 17:44 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 17:39 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 17:39 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 19:16 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-31 19:16 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20121031191602.GB1271-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 19:33 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 19:33 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 15:39 ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-02 9:30 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-02 9:30 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31 4:22 ` [PATCH 3/8] cgroup: use cgroup_lock_live_group(parent) in cgroup_create() Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 4:22 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351657365-25055-4-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 15:55 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-31 15:55 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20121031155514.GD22809-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:04 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 17:04 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 17:04 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121031170431.GF2945-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-01 9:16 ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-01 9:16 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20121101091644.GA8533-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-01 14:52 ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-01 14:52 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <CAOS58YM+kRtspVUzmnSmOmrDoNS_kF6KA02zWGxqH5FUcRWo1Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-01 15:05 ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-01 15:05 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20121101150532.GA5065-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-01 15:15 ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-01 15:15 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20121101151556.GB5065-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-01 15:43 ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-01 15:43 ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-01 15:15 ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-01 15:05 ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-02 9:37 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-02 9:37 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31 4:22 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 4:22 ` [PATCH 4/8] cgroup: deactivate CSS's and mark cgroup dead before invoking ->pre_destroy() Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 4:22 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351657365-25055-5-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 13:42 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 13:42 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 16:05 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-31 16:05 ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-02 9:43 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-02 9:43 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31 4:22 ` [PATCH 5/8] cgroup: remove CGRP_WAIT_ON_RMDIR, cgroup_exclude_rmdir() and cgroup_release_and_wakeup_rmdir() Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 4:22 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351657365-25055-6-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 16:27 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-31 16:27 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20121031162735.GF22809-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:16 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 17:16 ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-02 9:53 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-02 9:53 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31 4:22 ` [PATCH 6/8] memcg: make mem_cgroup_reparent_charges non failing Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 4:22 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351657365-25055-7-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-02 9:54 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-02 9:54 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31 4:22 ` [PATCH 7/8] hugetlb: do not fail in hugetlb_cgroup_pre_destroy Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 4:22 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351657365-25055-8-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-02 9:56 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-02 9:56 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-02 9:56 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31 4:22 ` [PATCH 8/8] cgroup: make ->pre_destroy() return void Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 4:22 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351657365-25055-9-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 13:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-10-31 13:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-10-31 16:28 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-31 16:28 ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-02 9:57 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-02 9:57 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31 13:49 ` [PATCHSET] cgroup: simplify cgroup removal path Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 13:49 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <50912C6D.6020000-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:18 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 17:18 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121031171849.GH2945-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:24 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 17:24 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 17:24 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <50915EB6.3060704-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:26 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 17:26 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121031172617.GK2945-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:33 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 17:33 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 16:31 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-31 16:31 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20121031163134.GH22809-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 16:35 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 16:35 ` Tejun Heo
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-10-31 18:16 [PATCHSET v2] " Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351707391-22287-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 18:16 ` [PATCH 2/8] cgroup: kill CSS_REMOVED Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 18:16 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 19:44 [PATCHSET RESEND v2] cgroup: simplify cgroup removal path Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351712650-23709-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 19:44 ` [PATCH 2/8] cgroup: kill CSS_REMOVED Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 19:44 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351712650-23709-3-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-02 10:02 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-02 10:02 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-02 10:02 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-05 5:33 ` Li Zefan
2012-11-05 5:33 ` Li Zefan
2012-11-05 5:33 ` Li Zefan
2012-10-31 19:44 ` Tejun Heo
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