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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"konrad.wilk@oracle.com" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kexec@lists.infradead.org" <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"jbeulich@suse.com" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 01:56:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50AED7B8.7040902@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18e831d4-910d-4f58-8911-1398b96e3a47@email.android.com>

On 23/11/2012 01:38, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> I still don't really get why it can't be isolated from dom0, which would make more sense to me, even for a Xen crash.
>

The crash region (as specified by crashkernel= on the Xen command line)
is isolated from dom0.

dom0 (using the kexec utility etc) has the task of locating the Xen
crash notes (using the kexec hypercall interface), constructing a binary
blob containing kernel, initram and gubbins, and asking Xen to put this
blob in the crash region (again, using the kexec hypercall interface).

I do not see how this is very much different from the native case
currently (although please correct me if I am misinformed).  Linux has
extra work to do by populating /proc/iomem with the Xen crash regions
boot (so the kexec utility can reference their physical addresses when
constructing the blob), and should just act as a conduit between the
kexec system call and the kexec hypercall to load the blob.

For within-guest kexec/kdump functionality, I agree that it is barking
mad.  However, we do see cloud operators interested in the idea so VM
administrators can look after their crashes themselves.

~Andrew

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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	"jbeulich@suse.com" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	"konrad.wilk@oracle.com" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kexec@lists.infradead.org" <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org" 
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 01:56:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50AED7B8.7040902@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18e831d4-910d-4f58-8911-1398b96e3a47@email.android.com>

On 23/11/2012 01:38, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> I still don't really get why it can't be isolated from dom0, which would make more sense to me, even for a Xen crash.
>

The crash region (as specified by crashkernel= on the Xen command line)
is isolated from dom0.

dom0 (using the kexec utility etc) has the task of locating the Xen
crash notes (using the kexec hypercall interface), constructing a binary
blob containing kernel, initram and gubbins, and asking Xen to put this
blob in the crash region (again, using the kexec hypercall interface).

I do not see how this is very much different from the native case
currently (although please correct me if I am misinformed).  Linux has
extra work to do by populating /proc/iomem with the Xen crash regions
boot (so the kexec utility can reference their physical addresses when
constructing the blob), and should just act as a conduit between the
kexec system call and the kexec hypercall to load the blob.

For within-guest kexec/kdump functionality, I agree that it is barking
mad.  However, we do see cloud operators interested in the idea so VM
administrators can look after their crashes themselves.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-23  1:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-20 15:04 [PATCH v2 00/11] xen: Initial kexec/kdump implementation Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04 ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04 ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04   ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04   ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04   ` [PATCH v2 02/11] x86/kexec: Add extra pointers to transition page table PGD, PUD, PMD and PTE Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04     ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04     ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04     ` [PATCH v2 03/11] xen: Introduce architecture independent data for kexec/kdump Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04       ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04       ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04       ` [PATCH v2 04/11] x86/xen: Introduce architecture dependent " Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04         ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04         ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04         ` [PATCH v2 05/11] x86/xen: Register resources required by kexec-tools Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04           ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04           ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04           ` [PATCH v2 06/11] x86/xen: Add i386 kexec/kdump implementation Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04             ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04             ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04             ` [PATCH v2 07/11] x86/xen: Add x86_64 " Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04               ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04               ` [PATCH v2 08/11] x86/xen: Add kexec/kdump makefile rules Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                 ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] x86/xen/enlighten: Add init and crash kexec/kdump hooks Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                   ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                   ` [PATCH v2 10/11] drivers/xen: Export vmcoreinfo through sysfs Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                     ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                     ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                     ` [PATCH v2 11/11] x86: Add Xen kexec control code size check to linker script Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                       ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:52     ` [PATCH v2 02/11] x86/kexec: Add extra pointers to transition page table PGD, PUD, PMD and PTE Jan Beulich
2012-11-20 15:52     ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-20 15:52       ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-20 15:52       ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-20 16:40   ` [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-20 16:40     ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-20 16:40     ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-21 10:52     ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-21 10:52       ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-21 10:52       ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-22 12:15       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-22 12:15         ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-22 12:15         ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-22 17:37         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-22 17:37           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-22 17:37           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  9:56           ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23  9:56             ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23  9:56             ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23 10:53             ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-11-23 10:53             ` Ian Campbell
2012-11-23 10:53               ` Ian Campbell
2012-11-22 17:47         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-22 17:47         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-22 17:47           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-22 17:47           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-22 18:07           ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-22 18:07             ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-22 18:07             ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-22 22:26             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-22 22:26             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-22 22:26               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-22 22:26               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-31 10:50               ` Petr Tesarik
2014-03-31 10:50                 ` Petr Tesarik
2014-03-31 10:50               ` Petr Tesarik
2012-11-22 18:07           ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-23  0:12           ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-23  0:12           ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-23  0:12             ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-23  0:12             ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-23  1:34             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  1:34               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  1:34               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  1:38             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  1:38               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  1:38               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  1:56               ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2012-11-23  1:56                 ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-23  8:01                 ` Bouchard Louis
2012-11-23  8:01                 ` Bouchard Louis
2012-11-23  8:01                   ` Bouchard Louis
2012-11-23  9:53                 ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23  9:53                 ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23  9:53                   ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23  9:53                   ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23 10:37                   ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 10:37                   ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 10:37                     ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 10:37                     ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 10:51                     ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-11-23 10:51                       ` Ian Campbell
2012-11-23 10:51                       ` Ian Campbell
2012-11-23 11:13                       ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 11:13                         ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 11:13                         ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 10:51                     ` Ian Campbell
2012-11-23 10:51                     ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23 10:51                       ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23 10:51                       ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23 11:08                       ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 11:08                         ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 11:08                         ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23  1:56               ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-23  9:47         ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23  9:47         ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23  9:47           ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23  9:47           ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 20:24           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-23 20:24             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-23 20:24             ` Eric W. Biederman

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