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From: Peter Lieven <pl@dlhnet.de>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] tap devices not receiving packets from a bridge
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:58:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B7B04B.2010504@dlhnet.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121123070211.GC22787@stefanha-thinkpad.hitronhub.home>

Am 23.11.2012 08:02, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 03:29:52PM +0100, Peter Lieven wrote:
>> is anyone aware of a problem with the linux network bridge that in very rare circumstances stops
>> a bridge from sending pakets to a tap device?
>>
>> My problem occurs in conjunction with vanilla qemu-kvm-1.2.0 and Ubuntu Kernel 3.2.0-34.53
>> which is based on Linux 3.2.33.
>>
>> I was not yet able to reproduce the issue, it happens in really rare cases. The symptom is that
>> the tap does not have any TX packets. RX is working fine. I see the packets coming in at
>> the physical interface on the host, but they are not forwarded to the tap interface.
>> The bridge itself has learnt the mac address of the vServer that is connected to the tap interface.
>> It does not help to toggle the bridge link status,  the tap interface status or the interface in the vServer.
>> It seems that problem occurs if a tap interface that has previously been used, but set to nonpersistent
>> is set persistent again and then is by chance assigned to the same vServer (=same mac address on same
>> bridge) again. Unfortunately it seems not to be reproducible.
> 
> Not sure but this patch from Michael Tsirkin may help - it solves an
> issue with persistent tap devices:
> 
> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/198598/

I have tried that patch (even if I do not use persistant taps), but it doesn't help.

What I can say now is that if a VM is not working with a tap - lets say tap10 then
it will not work with tap10, even if the vm is shut down. tap10 is set to non-persistant.
then the vm is started again, assigned occasionally again tap10 and is not working again.

BUT, if I use qemu-kvm-1.0.1 in the second case it is working. I have seen that there is
a lot of changes between 1.0.1 and 1.2.0 in the tap code. Maybe there is a bug in the
inititialization since then.

What also seem to have changed is that vlans have been removed. I was not aware of that,
so I still use vlans which are now emulated via hubs. Maybe this is related.

Peter

> 
> Stefan
> 

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From: Peter Lieven <pl@dlhnet.de>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	mst@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] tap devices not receiving packets from a bridge
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:58:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B7B04B.2010504@dlhnet.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121123070211.GC22787@stefanha-thinkpad.hitronhub.home>

Am 23.11.2012 08:02, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 03:29:52PM +0100, Peter Lieven wrote:
>> is anyone aware of a problem with the linux network bridge that in very rare circumstances stops
>> a bridge from sending pakets to a tap device?
>>
>> My problem occurs in conjunction with vanilla qemu-kvm-1.2.0 and Ubuntu Kernel 3.2.0-34.53
>> which is based on Linux 3.2.33.
>>
>> I was not yet able to reproduce the issue, it happens in really rare cases. The symptom is that
>> the tap does not have any TX packets. RX is working fine. I see the packets coming in at
>> the physical interface on the host, but they are not forwarded to the tap interface.
>> The bridge itself has learnt the mac address of the vServer that is connected to the tap interface.
>> It does not help to toggle the bridge link status,  the tap interface status or the interface in the vServer.
>> It seems that problem occurs if a tap interface that has previously been used, but set to nonpersistent
>> is set persistent again and then is by chance assigned to the same vServer (=same mac address on same
>> bridge) again. Unfortunately it seems not to be reproducible.
> 
> Not sure but this patch from Michael Tsirkin may help - it solves an
> issue with persistent tap devices:
> 
> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/198598/

I have tried that patch (even if I do not use persistant taps), but it doesn't help.

What I can say now is that if a VM is not working with a tap - lets say tap10 then
it will not work with tap10, even if the vm is shut down. tap10 is set to non-persistant.
then the vm is started again, assigned occasionally again tap10 and is not working again.

BUT, if I use qemu-kvm-1.0.1 in the second case it is working. I have seen that there is
a lot of changes between 1.0.1 and 1.2.0 in the tap code. Maybe there is a bug in the
inititialization since then.

What also seem to have changed is that vlans have been removed. I was not aware of that,
so I still use vlans which are now emulated via hubs. Maybe this is related.

Peter

> 
> Stefan
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-29 18:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-22 14:29 tap devices not receiving packets from a bridge Peter Lieven
2012-11-22 14:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Lieven
2012-11-23  7:02 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-23  7:02   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-23  9:41   ` Peter Lieven
2012-11-23  9:41     ` Peter Lieven
2012-11-23 11:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-11-23 11:02       ` Peter Lieven
2012-11-23 11:02         ` Peter Lieven
2013-01-22  9:04       ` Peter Lieven
2013-01-22  9:43         ` Peter Lieven
2013-01-23 10:03         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-02-12  7:06           ` Peter Lieven
2013-02-12  9:08             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-02-12  9:10               ` Peter Lieven
2013-02-12  9:29                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-02-12  9:39                 ` Michael Tokarev
2013-02-12  9:54                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-02-12 10:11                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Lieven
2013-02-12 10:43                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-14 14:21             ` Nicholas Thomas
2013-05-14 14:21               ` [Qemu-devel] " Nicholas Thomas
2013-05-14 14:28               ` Peter Lieven
2013-05-14 14:28                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Lieven
2013-05-14 14:49                 ` Nicholas Thomas
2013-05-14 14:49                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Nicholas Thomas
2013-05-15 11:00                   ` Nicholas Thomas
2013-05-15 11:00                     ` Nicholas Thomas
2013-05-16  6:24                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16  6:24                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16  6:27                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16  6:27                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16  8:20                         ` Nicholas Thomas
2013-05-16  8:20                           ` Nicholas Thomas
2013-05-16  8:40                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16  8:40                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16  8:47                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-05-16  8:47                               ` Peter Lieven
2013-05-16 11:27                             ` Nicholas Thomas
2013-05-16 11:27                               ` Nicholas Thomas
2013-05-16 12:09                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 12:09                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-11-29 18:58   ` Peter Lieven [this message]
2012-11-29 18:58     ` Peter Lieven

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