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From: Saul Wold <sgw@linux.intel.com>
To: "David Nyström" <david.c.nystrom@gmail.com>,
	"Michael Halstead" <michael@yoctoproject.org>,
	"Raymond Danks" <ray.danks@se-eng.com>
Cc: oe-core layer <openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: meta-cloud layer
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:15:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B8E999.2050109@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50B89887.3070003@gmail.com>

On 11/30/2012 03:29 AM, David Nyström wrote:
> On 11/29/2012 02:54 PM, Richard Purdie wrote:
>> On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 06:44 -0700, Raymond Danks wrote:
>>> Thanks for looping me in here David. The initial goal for the meta-xen
>>> layer was in fact to encompass Xen Cloud Platform.  As such, the intent
>>> was to contain both hypervisor and user-space applications.  Indeed, the
>>> xen distribution itself includes xm/libxl; hypervisor abstraction would
>>> be somewhat tedious in my opinion.
>>>
>>> The layer just received commits for expanding the libvirt build to
>>> support qemu.  The commonalities and shared packaged between xen, qemu,
>>> and kvm implementations are such that I would also agree that meta-xen
>>> should be expanded/renamed to encompass all virtualization types; I also
>>> support the move to meta-virtualization.
>>>
>
> meta-virtualization sounds good, let co-op on this so we don't duplicate
> work.
>
If everyone is OK with this, I will have Michael Halstead create a repo, 
please send him your keys so that you will have write access to it.

Sau!

>>> As far as a meta-cloud layer is concerned, I'm not sure I am
>>> knowledgeable enough in this area to weigh in.  I'm currently
>>> researching a filesystem implementation for OpenStack and have stumbled
>>> across Ceph/RBD and Gluster modules that look promising. On top of this,
>>> XCP is documented to include support for VastSky and can be integrated
>>> with DRBD.  And, the storage and hypervisor are only two pieces of the
>>> puzzle for a cloud implementation!
>>>
>
> Cool !
> I know, the meta-"cloud" name is quite/too ambitious, it was not meant
> to be a one week effort. But why aim low :).
>
>>> I think I would encourage you to also include OpenStack in a
>>> meta-virtualization layer until it has matured to the point where
>>> abstraction is more warranted.
>
> Agree.
>
>>> Since you've already created a presence
>>> at github, would it be possible to rename your layer to
>>> meta-virtualization and absorb the entire meta-xen layer?  I can push
>>> any changes for Xen/XCP here, it sounds like it is a central place for
>>> libvirt and could also contain Bruce's kernel modifications.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, I can create a meta-virtualization project.  In any case,
>>> those on the To and CC list should receive access to this layer as a
>>> starting point.
>>>
>>> Just my two cents.  :)
>>
>> I'd like to offer to host this combined layer (whatever we decide to
>> call it) on git.yoctoproject.org if that would help people and people
>> are interested. My only concern is in the area of maintainership, we
>> need to clearly define who maintains what and what the patch submission
>> process is in the README.
>>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sounds good to centralize everything, since Raymond is the majority code
> contributor, perhaps he, if willing, can maintain the
> meta-virtualization layer.
> If you want a co/sub-maintainer I'll be happy to help out.
>
>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-30 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-28 16:10 meta-cloud layer David Nyström
2012-11-28 16:22 ` Richard Purdie
2012-11-28 17:25   ` Bruce Ashfield
2012-11-29  8:41     ` David Nyström
2012-11-29 10:05       ` Prica, Mihai
2012-11-29 13:44       ` Raymond Danks
2012-11-29 13:54         ` Richard Purdie
2012-11-30 11:29           ` David Nyström
2012-11-30 17:14             ` Raymond Danks
2012-11-30 17:25               ` Bruce Ashfield
2012-11-30 17:15             ` Saul Wold [this message]
2012-11-30 17:26               ` Bruce Ashfield
2012-11-30 18:03                 ` Michael Halstead
2012-11-30 20:17                   ` Raymond Danks
2012-11-30 23:23                     ` Michael Halstead
2012-12-01 17:30                       ` Bruce Ashfield
2012-12-01 17:41                         ` Philip Balister
2012-12-01 20:43                       ` David Nyström
2012-12-03 15:20                         ` Prica, Mihai
2012-12-03 16:00                           ` Saul Wold
2012-12-03 16:04                             ` Michael Halstead
2012-12-03 16:27                               ` Raymond Danks

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