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From: Carsten Emde <C.Emde@osadl.org>
To: frank.rowand@am.sony.com
Cc: Simon Falsig <simon@newtec.dk>,
	"linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Real-time kernel thread performance and optimization
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:15:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50BCB40E.9050304@osadl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50B933A5.3020400@am.sony.com>

On 11/30/2012 11:31 PM, Frank Rowand wrote:
> On 11/30/12 07:46, Simon Falsig wrote:
>> [..]
>> Bonus-question:
>>   - Additionally, I've tried running cyclictest alongside with all the
>> above, and it actually performs rather well, without any substantial
>> spikes. A strange thing is though, that the results are actually better
>> with load than without? (running with -t1 -p 80 -n -i 10000 -l 10000)
>>   - Loaded: Min: 16, Avg: 41, Max: 177
>>   - No load: Min: 16, Avg: 97, Max: 263
>
> If the system is less loaded, then the idle thread might be able to
> enter deeper levels of sleep.  Deeper levels of sleep have larger
> latencies to exit.  You would have to look at your processor specific
> values for exiting sleep states to see if this is sufficient to explain
> the difference.
If running a half-decent version of cyclictest, sleep states are 
generally disabled while cyclictest is running. Please watch the line
   # /dev/cpu_dma_latency set to 0us
which essentially documents this mechanism. Yes, the name of the 
variable "cpu_dma_latency" is not obvious and cyclictest could do a 
better job by writing
   Wrote 0 to /dev/cpu_dma_latency and keeping the path open to prevent
   all cores from entering any sleep state
but this is another story.

A patch that was merged to 3.7 allows to individually enable or disable 
sleep states of the ladder governor 
(http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=62d6ae880e3e76098d5e345decd2dce443975889). 
It smoothly applies to 3.6-RT as well. This allows to fine-tune the 
sleep states by state and core, while the /dev/cpu_dma_latency mechanism 
acts on all states and cores, e.g. to disable sleep state 2 and all 
deeper states of the ladder governor on core #0, use:
   echo 1 >/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpuidle/state2/disable

BTW: To analyze how much time a core spent in a specific sleep state, 
simply look repeatedly at the "time" variable of a core's sleep state, 
e.g. for core #0:
# for i in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpuidle/state[0-4]
 > do
 > echo -e "`cat $i/name`:\t`cat $i/time`"
 > done
POLL:	1342984105
C1-IVB:	737109
C3-IVB:	3852451
C6-IVB:	1702683112
C7-IVB:	4366946606
While cyclictest is running with /dev/cpu_dma_latency set to 0, only the 
POLL state times are increasing.

	-Carsten.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-03 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-30 15:46 Real-time kernel thread performance and optimization Simon Falsig
2012-11-30 22:31 ` Frank Rowand
2012-12-03 12:39   ` Simon Falsig
2012-12-03 14:15   ` Carsten Emde [this message]
2012-12-11 14:43     ` Simon Falsig
2012-12-19  8:10       ` Carsten Emde
2012-12-20  8:09         ` Simon Falsig
2012-12-19 14:59     ` John Kacur
2012-12-19 15:20       ` Carsten Emde
2012-12-11 14:30   ` Simon Falsig
2012-12-17 22:18     ` Frank Rowand
2012-12-20  0:11       ` Darren Hart
2012-12-20  8:21         ` Simon Falsig
2013-01-02 17:21           ` Darren Hart
2012-12-12 15:39   ` Simon Falsig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-07-11  6:32 Simon Falsig

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