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From: robherring2@gmail.com (Rob Herring)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 2/2] ARM: SMP support for mach-virt
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:45:58 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50BE28C6.2010403@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121204161113.GT23368@mudshark.cambridge.arm.com>

On 12/04/2012 10:11 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 02:37:25PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:40:10PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:33:26PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>>> The memory that these 'offline' CPUs is executing then gets overwritten,
>>>> and that's game over for those CPUs.
>>>
>>> That's not strictly true. The device-tree passed to the kernel should have a
>>> /memreserve/ entry for the SMP pen to avoid exactly this scenario. In real
>>> hardware, this still sucks because you have spinning CPUs burning up power
>>> but that's not such a problem with a virtual platform.
>>
>> Umm.  So let's see.  If I'm running v3.6 stock kernel and want to kexec
>> into a v3.7 stock kernel.  The SMP pen is part of the v3.6 kernel, which
>> will be located at 32K into the RAM.  The v3.7 kernel will also want to
>> occupy the same place.  At some point you have to overwrite the v3.6
>> kernel with the v3.7 kernel image.
> 
> If the 3.6 kernel didn't bring those CPUs online, they will sit in the
> bootloader pen (out of the way of the kernel image) rather than the kernel
> pen so I don't think there will be a problem.
> 
> The problem you're describing actually happens when the 3.6 kernel onlines
> all of the CPUs, because now it has no way to hotplug them off safely. This
> is also an issue with non-virtualised hardware but we could solve it for the
> virtual platform by having a para-virtualised device for doing CPU hotplug.
> 
>> That happens _before_ the DT has been parsed, so any memreserve stuff
>> will be ignored.  And it's at that point that your "offline" secondary
>> CPUs will have their instructions overwritten.
>>
>> That's fine if the pen ends up being at the same place but that's not
>> something we guarantee.
> 
> Having CPUs in limbo between the bootloader the being online in the kernel
> is something we should just avoid. Isn't that pen __init anyway?

Aren't we mixing 2 pens here? You must have some simple bootloader
containing vector table and a pen that the dtb points to, right? The pen
you have in the kernel is only needed when hotplug only does a wfi. As
you don't yet support hotplug, then you can drop all the kernel pen code.

If there is no way to reset the core, then couldn't the hotplug code
tear down the cpu setup and just jump back to 0x0 which then returns to
the bootloader's pen?

Rob

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-04 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-03 17:52 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Add support for a fake, para-virtualised machine Will Deacon
2012-12-03 17:52 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] ARM: Dummy Virtual Machine platform support Will Deacon
2012-12-03 17:52 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] ARM: SMP support for mach-virt Will Deacon
2012-12-03 21:55   ` Rob Herring
2012-12-04 12:40     ` Will Deacon
2012-12-04 13:33       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-12-04 13:40         ` Will Deacon
2012-12-04 14:37           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-12-04 16:11             ` Will Deacon
2012-12-04 16:35               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-12-04 17:24                 ` Will Deacon
2012-12-04 19:37                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-12-04 16:45               ` Rob Herring [this message]
2012-12-04 17:16                 ` Will Deacon
2012-12-04 17:23                   ` Rob Herring
2012-12-04 17:24                   ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-04 17:30                     ` Will Deacon
2012-12-11 16:04                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-12-11 16:09                         ` Will Deacon
2012-12-11 16:34                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-12-11 16:41                             ` Ian Campbell
2012-12-11 16:43                             ` Will Deacon
2012-12-11 17:14                               ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-12-11 17:24                                 ` Will Deacon
2012-12-04 18:10                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-12-03 21:54 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Add support for a fake, para-virtualised machine Rob Herring
2012-12-04 12:30   ` Will Deacon
2012-12-04 14:12     ` Rob Herring
2012-12-04 17:00       ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-12-04 17:11         ` Will Deacon
2012-12-04 18:02           ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-12-04 18:14             ` Will Deacon
2012-12-05 14:52               ` Catalin Marinas
2012-12-05 15:07                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-12-05 15:10                   ` Will Deacon
2012-12-05 15:07                 ` Will Deacon
2012-12-05 15:15                   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-12-11 16:19     ` Stefano Stabellini

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