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From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Peter De Schrijver
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Cc: Hiroshi Doyu <hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] clocksource: tegra: Enable ARM arch_timer with TSC
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:33:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50D305A6.2080904@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121220122246.GA6819-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>

On 20/12/12 12:22, Peter De Schrijver wrote:
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	/* CNTFRQ */
>>>>> +	asm("mcr p15, 0, %0, c14, c0, 0\n" : : "r" (freq));
>>>>> +	asm("mrc p15, 0, %0, c14, c0, 0\n" : "=r" (val));
>>>>> +	BUG_ON(val != freq);
>>>>
>>>> This is scary. CNTFRQ is only writable from secure mode, and will
>>>> explode in any other situation.
>>>>
>>>> Also, writing to CNTFRQ doesn't change the timer frequency! This is just
>>>> a way for secure mode to tell the rest of the world the frequency the
>>>> timer is ticking at. Unless you've wired the input clock to be able to
>>>> change the frequency?
>>>
>>> ATM, our upstream kernel is expected in secure mode. This situation
>>> may be changed later, though....
>>
>> I appreciate this. But I expect this kernel to be also used on the
>> non-secure side if someone tried to run KVM with it. And this would go
>> bang right away.
>>
> 
> But the guest wouldn't necessarily have this peripheral, or any other Tegra114
> peripheral for that matter?

The problem is not so much the guest but the host. The host has to be
booted in non-secure, so just saying "we do not support non-secure" is
not a very convincing argument.

Unless of course you've already decided that you don't want to support
KVM on this SoC...

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: marc.zyngier@arm.com (Marc Zyngier)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 5/9] clocksource: tegra: Enable ARM arch_timer with TSC
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:33:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50D305A6.2080904@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121220122246.GA6819@tbergstrom-lnx.Nvidia.com>

On 20/12/12 12:22, Peter De Schrijver wrote:
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	/* CNTFRQ */
>>>>> +	asm("mcr p15, 0, %0, c14, c0, 0\n" : : "r" (freq));
>>>>> +	asm("mrc p15, 0, %0, c14, c0, 0\n" : "=r" (val));
>>>>> +	BUG_ON(val != freq);
>>>>
>>>> This is scary. CNTFRQ is only writable from secure mode, and will
>>>> explode in any other situation.
>>>>
>>>> Also, writing to CNTFRQ doesn't change the timer frequency! This is just
>>>> a way for secure mode to tell the rest of the world the frequency the
>>>> timer is ticking at. Unless you've wired the input clock to be able to
>>>> change the frequency?
>>>
>>> ATM, our upstream kernel is expected in secure mode. This situation
>>> may be changed later, though....
>>
>> I appreciate this. But I expect this kernel to be also used on the
>> non-secure side if someone tried to run KVM with it. And this would go
>> bang right away.
>>
> 
> But the guest wouldn't necessarily have this peripheral, or any other Tegra114
> peripheral for that matter?

The problem is not so much the guest but the host. The host has to be
booted in non-secure, so just saying "we do not support non-secure" is
not a very convincing argument.

Unless of course you've already decided that you don't want to support
KVM on this SoC...

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
To: Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@nvidia.com>
Cc: Hiroshi Doyu <hdoyu@nvidia.com>,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	"andrew@lunn.ch" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"linux@arm.linux.org.uk" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"jason@lakedaemon.net" <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	"johnstul@us.ibm.com" <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org" 
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"rob.herring@calxeda.com" <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] clocksource: tegra: Enable ARM arch_timer with TSC
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:33:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50D305A6.2080904@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121220122246.GA6819@tbergstrom-lnx.Nvidia.com>

On 20/12/12 12:22, Peter De Schrijver wrote:
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	/* CNTFRQ */
>>>>> +	asm("mcr p15, 0, %0, c14, c0, 0\n" : : "r" (freq));
>>>>> +	asm("mrc p15, 0, %0, c14, c0, 0\n" : "=r" (val));
>>>>> +	BUG_ON(val != freq);
>>>>
>>>> This is scary. CNTFRQ is only writable from secure mode, and will
>>>> explode in any other situation.
>>>>
>>>> Also, writing to CNTFRQ doesn't change the timer frequency! This is just
>>>> a way for secure mode to tell the rest of the world the frequency the
>>>> timer is ticking at. Unless you've wired the input clock to be able to
>>>> change the frequency?
>>>
>>> ATM, our upstream kernel is expected in secure mode. This situation
>>> may be changed later, though....
>>
>> I appreciate this. But I expect this kernel to be also used on the
>> non-secure side if someone tried to run KVM with it. And this would go
>> bang right away.
>>
> 
> But the guest wouldn't necessarily have this peripheral, or any other Tegra114
> peripheral for that matter?

The problem is not so much the guest but the host. The host has to be
booted in non-secure, so just saying "we do not support non-secure" is
not a very convincing argument.

Unless of course you've already decided that you don't want to support
KVM on this SoC...

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-20 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-20  9:43 [PATCH 0/9] ARM: Initial support for Tegra 114 SoC Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:43 ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:43 ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44 ` [PATCH 3/9] ARM: tegra: # of CPU cores detection w/ & w/o HAVE_ARM_SCU Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44   ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44   ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]   ` <1355996654-6579-4-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-20 10:06     ` Felipe Balbi
2012-12-20 10:06       ` Felipe Balbi
2012-12-20 10:06       ` Felipe Balbi
2012-12-20 11:21       ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20 11:21         ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20 11:21         ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]         ` <20121220.132136.1599315430686323669.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-20 18:18           ` Felipe Balbi
2012-12-20 18:18             ` Felipe Balbi
2012-12-20 18:18             ` Felipe Balbi
2012-12-20 11:17   ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 11:17     ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 11:26     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20 11:26       ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20 11:32       ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 11:32         ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20  9:44 ` [PATCH 4/9] clocksource: tegra: Reorganize funcs by clock functionarities Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44   ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44   ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44 ` [PATCH 5/9] clocksource: tegra: Enable ARM arch_timer with TSC Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44   ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44   ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]   ` <1355996654-6579-6-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-20 11:01     ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 11:01       ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 11:01       ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 11:57       ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20 11:57         ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20 12:05         ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 12:05           ` Marc Zyngier
     [not found]           ` <50D2FF19.4060600-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-20 12:22             ` Peter De Schrijver
2012-12-20 12:22               ` Peter De Schrijver
2012-12-20 12:22               ` Peter De Schrijver
     [not found]               ` <20121220122246.GA6819-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-20 12:33                 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2012-12-20 12:33                   ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 12:33                   ` Marc Zyngier
     [not found]                   ` <50D305A6.2080904-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-20 12:55                     ` Peter De Schrijver
2012-12-20 12:55                       ` Peter De Schrijver
2012-12-20 12:55                       ` Peter De Schrijver
2012-12-20 13:32                       ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 13:32                         ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 14:42                         ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20 14:42                           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                           ` <20121220.164230.292625215885249791.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-20 17:09                             ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 17:09                               ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 17:09                               ` Marc Zyngier
     [not found]                               ` <50D34630.9020708-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-20 22:13                                 ` Peter De Schrijver
2012-12-20 22:13                                   ` Peter De Schrijver
2012-12-20 22:13                                   ` Peter De Schrijver
2012-12-20 13:25             ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20 13:25               ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20 13:25               ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20 13:33               ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 13:33                 ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20  9:44 ` [PATCH 6/9] ARM: dt: tegra114: Add new SoC base, Tegra 114 SoC Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44   ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44   ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]   ` <1355996654-6579-7-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-20 11:27     ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 11:27       ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-20 11:27       ` Marc Zyngier
2012-12-29  6:39     ` Olof Johansson
2012-12-29  6:39       ` Olof Johansson
2012-12-29  6:39       ` Olof Johansson
2012-12-31  7:12       ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-31  7:12         ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found] ` <1355996654-6579-1-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-20  9:43   ` [PATCH 1/9] ARM: tegra: fuse: Add chipid TEGRA114 0x35 Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:43     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:43     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44   ` [PATCH 2/9] HACK: ARM: tegra: Use CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED for Tegra 114 SoC Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44   ` [PATCH 7/9] ARM: dt: tegra114: Add new board, Dalmore Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44   ` [PATCH 8/9] ARM: dt: tegra114: Add new board, Pluto Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44   ` [PATCH 9/9] ARM: tegra: Add initial support for Tegra 114 SoC Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-12-20  9:44     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-01-03 16:28     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-03 16:28       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-04  7:16       ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-01-04  7:16         ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-01-04  7:16         ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-01-03 14:06   ` [PATCH 0/9] ARM: Initial " Hiroshi Doyu
2013-01-03 14:06     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-01-03 14:06     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-01-03 21:00   ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-03 21:00     ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-03 21:00     ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-03 21:16     ` Stephen Warren
2013-01-03 21:16       ` Stephen Warren
2012-12-24  9:58 ` Mark Zhang
2012-12-24  9:58   ` Mark Zhang

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