* Radeon HDMI question @ 2013-01-17 19:35 Boszormenyi Zoltan 2013-01-18 12:04 ` Christian König 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Boszormenyi Zoltan @ 2013-01-17 19:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: dri-devel Hi, I experience a strange problem, I don't know whether it's a feature or a bug, and if it's a bug, where. I have a Radeon HD6570. A monitor via DVI and an LCD TV via HDMI are connected. Fedora 18/x86_64 is installed on the computer. (Previously it was F17, F16 and F14.) When playing videos via Xine, all videos with 5.1 sound works nicely via the HDMI, the sound output is on the TV. However, when only stereo or mono sound is present in the video, the sound doesn't go out to the TV. I have an internal soundcard and speakers are connected. Pulseaudio on modern Linuxen has the feature to switch the audio output device on the fly and per-application, so I can switch between the outputs. Is is possible to make mono and stereo audio work via HDMI? Thanks in advance, Zoltán Böszörményi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Radeon HDMI question 2013-01-17 19:35 Radeon HDMI question Boszormenyi Zoltan @ 2013-01-18 12:04 ` Christian König 2013-03-05 18:26 ` Boszormenyi Zoltan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Christian König @ 2013-01-18 12:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Boszormenyi Zoltan; +Cc: dri-devel Am 17.01.2013 20:35, schrieb Boszormenyi Zoltan: > Hi, > > I experience a strange problem, I don't know whether > it's a feature or a bug, and if it's a bug, where. > > I have a Radeon HD6570. A monitor via DVI and an LCD TV > via HDMI are connected. Fedora 18/x86_64 is installed on > the computer. (Previously it was F17, F16 and F14.) > > When playing videos via Xine, all videos with 5.1 sound > works nicely via the HDMI, the sound output is on the TV. > However, when only stereo or mono sound is present in > the video, the sound doesn't go out to the TV. > > I have an internal soundcard and speakers are connected. > Pulseaudio on modern Linuxen has the feature to switch the > audio output device on the fly and per-application, so I can > switch between the outputs. > > Is is possible to make mono and stereo audio work via HDMI? Hi Zoltán, that just sounds like a mis configured Xine to me. Xine can be configured to use different outputs for Mono/Stero and 5.1 sounds. You can also configure ALSA to route the audio differently depending on the number of channels, but that isn't the default and if you configured it like this you probably would remember it :) I can't really see a way how this can be a hardware problem either, cause 5.1 audio pass through is handled mostly the same as Stereo. I suggest that you check your Xine configuration, you should find multiple setting for selection the output device (Mono/Stereo/5.1/7.1 etc...) make sure that they all point to the correct hardware device. Regards, Christian. > > Thanks in advance, > Zoltán Böszörményi > > _______________________________________________ > dri-devel mailing list > dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Radeon HDMI question 2013-01-18 12:04 ` Christian König @ 2013-03-05 18:26 ` Boszormenyi Zoltan 2013-03-06 9:50 ` Christian König 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Boszormenyi Zoltan @ 2013-03-05 18:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christian König; +Cc: dri-devel Hi, 2013-01-18 13:04 keltezéssel, Christian König írta: > Am 17.01.2013 20:35, schrieb Boszormenyi Zoltan: >> Hi, >> >> I experience a strange problem, I don't know whether >> it's a feature or a bug, and if it's a bug, where. >> >> I have a Radeon HD6570. A monitor via DVI and an LCD TV >> via HDMI are connected. Fedora 18/x86_64 is installed on >> the computer. (Previously it was F17, F16 and F14.) >> >> When playing videos via Xine, all videos with 5.1 sound >> works nicely via the HDMI, the sound output is on the TV. >> However, when only stereo or mono sound is present in >> the video, the sound doesn't go out to the TV. >> >> I have an internal soundcard and speakers are connected. >> Pulseaudio on modern Linuxen has the feature to switch the >> audio output device on the fly and per-application, so I can >> switch between the outputs. >> >> Is is possible to make mono and stereo audio work via HDMI? > > Hi Zoltán, > > that just sounds like a mis configured Xine to me. Xine can be configured to use > different outputs for Mono/Stero and 5.1 sounds. > > You can also configure ALSA to route the audio differently depending on the number of > channels, but that isn't the default and if you configured it like this you probably > would remember it :) I am sure I would remember it. :) > I can't really see a way how this can be a hardware problem either, cause 5.1 audio pass > through is handled mostly the same as Stereo. > > I suggest that you check your Xine configuration, you should find multiple setting for > selection the output device (Mono/Stereo/5.1/7.1 etc...) make sure that they all point > to the correct hardware device. > > Regards, > Christian. OK, a new problem now with 5.1 sound, it can be reproduced. I still have the same setup as described above. I started watching a video. Initially, HDMI audio just works nicely. I had to do something else so I paused Xine. During this time, X went to DPMS blanking. The TV switches itself off to save power if it sees no input. So, after waking up the monitor from DPMS and turning on the TV again, I pressed play on the video. It continues playing but without the sound. It seems to be the same with Linux 3.8.1 and earlier kernels. There is nothing in dmesg, only: ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_eld.c:337 HDMI: ELD buf size is 0, force 128 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_eld.c:356 HDMI: invalid ELD data byte 0 Thanks in advance, Zoltán Böszörményi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Radeon HDMI question 2013-03-05 18:26 ` Boszormenyi Zoltan @ 2013-03-06 9:50 ` Christian König 2013-03-06 10:10 ` Boszormenyi Zoltan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Christian König @ 2013-03-06 9:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Boszormenyi Zoltan; +Cc: dri-devel Hi, Am 05.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Boszormenyi Zoltan: > OK, a new problem now with 5.1 sound, it can be reproduced. > > I still have the same setup as described above. > I started watching a video. Initially, HDMI audio just works nicely. > I had to do something else so I paused Xine. > During this time, X went to DPMS blanking. > The TV switches itself off to save power if it sees no input. > So, after waking up the monitor from DPMS and turning on the > TV again, I pressed play on the video. It continues playing but > without the sound. > > It seems to be the same with Linux 3.8.1 and earlier kernels. Does that also happen with just plain stereo playback? If yes then this is a bug with restoring the correct audio settings after DPMS blanking. If not (and that's what I think is more likely) than that's because DPMS blanking causes a desync between xine and your TV. Unfortunately there isn't much we can do about it (maybe expect disabling DPMS all together), Cause from the hardware point of view it's just not possible to tell the audio codec to stop playback because the display isn't turned on any more. Does it work when you close xine and restart it? If yes than it might be worth a try to tell xine to close and reopen the audio device on pause/restart of playback. > > There is nothing in dmesg, only: > > ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_eld.c:337 HDMI: ELD buf size is 0, force 128 > ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_eld.c:356 HDMI: invalid ELD data byte 0 That's unrelated, the alsa driver just assumes the standard ELD informations for the HDMI audio codec, but AMD hardware is actually not using it. The real solution to your problem is to finally implement 8 channel PCM audio, instead of just using this ugly 5.1 pass through workaround. But so far nobody had time to do so. Christian. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Radeon HDMI question 2013-03-06 9:50 ` Christian König @ 2013-03-06 10:10 ` Boszormenyi Zoltan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Boszormenyi Zoltan @ 2013-03-06 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christian König; +Cc: dri-devel Hi, 2013-03-06 10:50 keltezéssel, Christian König írta: > Hi, > > Am 05.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Boszormenyi Zoltan: >> OK, a new problem now with 5.1 sound, it can be reproduced. >> >> I still have the same setup as described above. >> I started watching a video. Initially, HDMI audio just works nicely. >> I had to do something else so I paused Xine. >> During this time, X went to DPMS blanking. >> The TV switches itself off to save power if it sees no input. >> So, after waking up the monitor from DPMS and turning on the >> TV again, I pressed play on the video. It continues playing but >> without the sound. >> >> It seems to be the same with Linux 3.8.1 and earlier kernels. > > Does that also happen with just plain stereo playback? If yes then this is a bug with > restoring the correct audio settings after DPMS blanking. I will try to test it later, also with mplayer. > > If not (and that's what I think is more likely) than that's because DPMS blanking causes > a desync between xine and your TV. Unfortunately there isn't much we can do about it > (maybe expect disabling DPMS all together), Cause from the hardware point of view it's > just not possible to tell the audio codec to stop playback because the display isn't > turned on any more. > > Does it work when you close xine and restart it? If yes than it might be worth a try to > tell xine to close and reopen the audio device on pause/restart of playback. Unfortunately, after HDMI audio goes away, restarting Xine doesn't help at all. The audio driver is pulseaudio in Xine, so I can switch between the built-in audio with stereo speakers and the HDMI output and the speakers produce the expected sounds. Also, the vumeter in pavucontrol shows that sound is generated from Xine, no matter which hardware is selected and even when HDMI is selected but there is no sound on the TV after it went out. The sound only comes back when I reboot the computer. > >> >> There is nothing in dmesg, only: >> >> ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_eld.c:337 HDMI: ELD buf size is 0, force 128 >> ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_eld.c:356 HDMI: invalid ELD data byte 0 > > That's unrelated, the alsa driver just assumes the standard ELD informations for the > HDMI audio codec, but AMD hardware is actually not using it. > > The real solution to your problem is to finally implement 8 channel PCM audio, instead > of just using this ugly 5.1 pass through workaround. But so far nobody had time to do so. Thanks for the information. Best regards, Zoltán Böszörményi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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