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From: Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@genband.com>
To: Tom St Denis <tstdenis@elliptictech.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	David Dillow <dave@thedillows.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:49:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50FD637F.2080604@genband.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1161725580.95543.1358782288077.JavaMail.root@elliptictech.com>

On 01/21/2013 09:31 AM, Tom St Denis wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steven Rostedt"<rostedt@goodmis.org> To: "Tom St
>> Denis"<tstdenis@elliptictech.com> Cc: "David
>> Dillow"<dave@thedillows.org>, "Borislav Petkov"<bp@alien8.de>,
>> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org Sent: Monday,
>> 21 January, 2013 10:28:33 AM Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
>>
>> When I send a patch to another maintainer, and they tell me to fix
>> the way I did the comments, I don't complain. I fix the comments
>> and resend.
>
> Which is less of a problem when there is a timeliness factor.  In the
> business world people move on and don't work at that pace.

There can be an impedance mismatch between the "get it done to hit a 
deadline" business world and the "get it right no matter how long it 
takes" world of some open-source projects.

However, many businesses have recognized that they get far more benefit 
from dealing with open-source than it costs them in designer time.

 From the point of view of my employer (I work in telecom) the choices 
are either:

a) work with the kernel to get the code submitted into mainline
b) keep the changes private and port them every time we upgrade

Over a decade or more my management has come to realize that option "a" 
is generally better in the long term, even if it's a bit more effort in 
the short term.

There are exceptions of course, and sometimes we just need to do a 
quick-and-dirty solution to get something out the door.

Chris

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-21 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-15 16:51 IPsec AH use of ahash Tom St Denis
2013-01-16  6:21 ` Steffen Klassert
2013-01-18 19:35   ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-18 19:50     ` David Miller
2013-01-18 20:53       ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-18 22:16         ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2013-01-18 22:31           ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-19  2:33             ` Michal Kubecek
2013-01-19  2:59               ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-19  3:59               ` Eric Dumazet
2013-01-19 10:30                 ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-19 15:46                   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-01-20  5:06                   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-20 10:31                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-20 12:56                       ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-20 13:34                         ` Alexander Holler
2013-01-20 13:54                           ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-30 22:16                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2013-01-20 22:07                         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-21  0:47                           ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-20 12:55                     ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-20 14:11                       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-20 15:07                         ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-20 16:34                           ` David Dillow
2013-01-20 17:40                             ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-20 18:11                               ` David Dillow
2013-01-20 18:47                                 ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-20 22:54                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-21  0:34                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-21  0:40                                       ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-21  1:08                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-21  9:18                                         ` David Dillow
2013-01-21 10:20                                           ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-21 13:38                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-21 13:45                                               ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-21 14:37                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-21 14:51                                                   ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-21 15:28                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-21 15:31                                                       ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-21 15:49                                                         ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2013-01-21 16:05                                                           ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-20 20:30                               ` Alan Cox
2013-01-21  0:46                                 ` Tom St Denis
2013-01-20 17:03                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-20 17:33                             ` Tom St Denis

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