Howto for using mlmmj

Howto for using mlmmj

[Jesper Lund Stocholm]

I am currently considering signing up with a mail host with the intent
to use mlmmj for mail list purposes.

I can easily find a number of guides on how to install mlmmj, but I
actually rather need a Howto for using the system afterwards.

Can you tell me where I can find answers to questions like:



How do I add a moderator to a list?

How do I remove a moderator from a list?

How do I remove moderation from a list?

How do I add moderation to a list?

How do I get a list of all recipients of a list?

How do I remove a user from a list?

How do I add a user from a list?

How do I delete a message from the archive?


So these are all user-specific scenarios for those using the lists - but
do not have access to the installation itself. I presume the above
can/should be done using commands through email - but I cannot find the
information to how it's done.


Can you help me here - any help will be greatly appreciated.

:o)

Jesper Lund Stocholm

Re: Howto for using mlmmj

[Richard Torrens (lists)]

In article
<A47BAB0B49FD934EA28A3A21B943AB9001194240@eusex01.sweden.ecsoft>,
   Jesper Lund Stocholm <jesper.stocholm@ciber.dk> wrote:
> I am currently considering signing up with a mail host with the intent
> to use mlmmj for mail list purposes.

> I can easily find a number of guides on how to install mlmmj, but I
> actually rather need a Howto for using the system afterwards.

I agree with Jesper - 'user' instructions such as he requests are scarce.

-- 
Richard Torrens.
http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats
and more!

Re: Howto for using mlmmj

[Franky Van Liedekerke]

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Richard Torrens (lists)
<Lists@torrens.org.uk> wrote:
> In article
> <A47BAB0B49FD934EA28A3A21B943AB9001194240@eusex01.sweden.ecsoft>,
>   Jesper Lund Stocholm <jesper.stocholm@ciber.dk> wrote:
>> I am currently considering signing up with a mail host with the intent
>> to use mlmmj for mail list purposes.
>
>> I can easily find a number of guides on how to install mlmmj, but I
>> actually rather need a Howto for using the system afterwards.
>
> I agree with Jesper - 'user' instructions such as he requests are scarce.

Well, there are of course the README files in the distro: how to setup
mlmmj + postfix/sendmail/exim/qmail and a README in each of the web
interfaces. I guess these should get you started ...

Franky

Re: Howto for using mlmmj

[Marco S Hyman]

> Can you tell me where I can find answers to questions like:

By reading the doc, specifically the section on Tunables

    http://mlmmj.org/man/tunables

and Access Rules

    http://mlmmj.org/man/access

> How do I add a moderator to a list?

Add their address to control/moderators

> How do I remove a moderator from a list?

Remove their address from control/moderators

> How do I remove moderation from a list?

Remove the file control/moderated and/or remove moderate
commands in control/access.

> How do I add moderation to a list?

Create the file control/moderated or add a moderate rule
to the control/access file.

> How do I get a list of all recipients of a list?

normal users: /usr/local/bin/mlmmj-list -L /var/spool/mlmmj/<list> -s
digest users: /usr/local/bin/mlmmj-list -L /var/spool/mlmmj/<list> -d

> How do I remove a user from a list?

/usr/local/bin/mlmmj-unsub -L /var/spool/mlmmj/<list> -a <addr>

> How do I add a user from a list?

/usr/local/bin/mlmmj-sub -L /var/spool/mlmmj/<list> -a <addr>

> How do I delete a message from the archive?

This I've never done.   Guess: rm /path/to/archive/message

Note that all of these commands are run on the machine that
hosts the list.  I'm not aware of any way of doing these functions
remotely through email, but then I've never looked, either.

/\/\arc

RE: Howto for using mlmmj

[Jesper Lund Stocholm]

Hello,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marco S Hyman [mailto:marc@snafu.org]
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:53 PM
> To: Jesper Lund Stocholm
> Cc: mlmmj@mlmmj.org
> Subject: Re: Howto for using mlmmj
> 
[snip]
> 
> Note that all of these commands are run on the machine that
> hosts the list.  I'm not aware of any way of doing these functions
> remotely through email, but then I've never looked, either.

Ok - is /any/ of it available thru email commands? A few years back I
used another mail list mgr (I can't remember which) and I was able to do
a good part of day-to-day configuration via email.

The "email commands" could be

Add moderator to list:

To: mylist@dom.tld
Subject: add mod myemail@example.com

Remove moderator from list:

To: mylist@dom.tld
Subject: rm mod myemail@example.com

Add email to list:

Subject: add youremail@example.com

Remove email from list:

Subject: rm youremail@example.com

Get list of all recipients:

Subject: list

Bulk-add emails to list:

Subject: bulkinsert
Body:
Email1
Email2
Email3
...

The above are just examples of what I would like to be able to do. The
commands were naturally only available to people (email addresses)
registered as either admins or moderators.

Thanks for your time,

/Jesper

Re: Howto for using mlmmj

[Franky Van Liedekerke]

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:35:27 +0200
"Jesper Lund Stocholm" <jesper.stocholm@ciber.dk> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marco S Hyman [mailto:marc@snafu.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:53 PM
> > To: Jesper Lund Stocholm
> > Cc: mlmmj@mlmmj.org
> > Subject: Re: Howto for using mlmmj
> > 
> [snip]
> > 
> > Note that all of these commands are run on the machine that
> > hosts the list.  I'm not aware of any way of doing these functions
> > remotely through email, but then I've never looked, either.
> 
> Ok - is /any/ of it available thru email commands? A few years back I
> used another mail list mgr (I can't remember which) and I was able to
> do a good part of day-to-day configuration via email.
>

For as far as I know: no mail-based management, but there's a simple
web based interface (perl cgi or php) that you can use for remote
management. Of course email moderation is always possible trough mail.

Franky

Re: Howto for using mlmmj

[Mads Martin Jørgensen]

On 22/10/2009, at 22.35, Jesper Lund Stocholm wrote:

> Ok - is /any/ of it available thru email commands? A few years back I
> used another mail list mgr (I can't remember which) and I was able  
> to do
> a good part of day-to-day configuration via email.

That would be majordomo. And no--it's not possible to configure mlmmj  
through email. But patches are very welcome--but parsing strings in C  
is not a walk in the park when the maintainer is Mr. Morten Security  
Poulsen :)

-- 
Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
"Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
  and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
                                  -- A. P. J.

RE: Howto for using mlmmj

[James Scott]

On Friday, 23 October 2009 10:04 a.m., Mads Martin Jørgensen wrote:

> That would be majordomo. 

Note that the Mercury Mail Server (www.pmail.gen.nz) also supports mail list
configuration via email commands.

James