Links to various language bindings

Links to various language bindings

[Wido den Hollander]

Hi,

I knew that there were Java bindings for RADOS, but they weren't linked.

Well, some searching on Github lead me to Noah's bindings [0], but it 
was a bit of searching.

I expect new users to be less fortunate and end up searching endlessly 
for them.

The docs say this now: 
http://ceph.com/docs/master/api/#rados-object-store-apis

Only the libcephfs bindings are linked to, but they are part of the main 
repository (which still puzzles me..).

For what I know bindings exist for Java[0], PHP[1] and Python, but it's 
not to be found anywhere.

Shall I submit a patch to put this in the docs or should this go on 
ceph.com itself?

I'd go for the docs so we can also include some simple samples for 
people who are less experienced with Ceph/RADOS and just want to get 
started, maybe developers who's only task is just to work with RADOS.

Wido

[0]: https://github.com/noahdesu/java-rados
[1]: https://github.com/ceph/phprados

Re: Links to various language bindings

[Noah Watkins]

On Feb 8, 2013, at 1:06 AM, Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I knew that there were Java bindings for RADOS, but they weren't linked.
> 
> Well, some searching on Github lead me to Noah's bindings [0], but it was a bit of searching.

The RADOS Java bindings on my Github page should be taken down--they are very old and not stable. Any links to it should probably be taken down. If there is interest in the RADOS Java bindings, I'd be happy to get that ball rolling.

- Noah

Re: Links to various language bindings

[Wido den Hollander]

Hi Noah,

On 02/08/2013 04:42 PM, Noah Watkins wrote:
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 1:06 AM, Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I knew that there were Java bindings for RADOS, but they weren't linked.
>>
>> Well, some searching on Github lead me to Noah's bindings [0], but it was a bit of searching.
>
> The RADOS Java bindings on my Github page should be taken down--they are very old and not stable. Any links to it should probably be taken down. If there is interest in the RADOS Java bindings, I'd be happy to get that ball rolling.
>

Could you then update the README?

I did a quick test yesterday with them and they worked fine, but I just 
created a Cluster object and a pool, didn't do anything fancy.

rados4j is also on Github, does anyone know the status of that?

Anyway, what about making these language bindings more clear to end 
users so they can experience the full power of RADOS?

Wido

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Re: Links to various language bindings

[Noah Watkins]

On Feb 9, 2013, at 1:50 AM, Wido den Hollander <wido@42on.com> wrote:

> Hi Noah,
> 
> On 02/08/2013 04:42 PM, Noah Watkins wrote:
>> 
>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 1:06 AM, Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I knew that there were Java bindings for RADOS, but they weren't linked.
>>> 
>>> Well, some searching on Github lead me to Noah's bindings [0], but it was a bit of searching.
>> 
>> The RADOS Java bindings on my Github page should be taken down--they are very old and not stable. Any links to it should probably be taken down. If there is interest in the RADOS Java bindings, I'd be happy to get that ball rolling.
>> 
> 
> Could you then update the README?

Sure.

> I did a quick test yesterday with them and they worked fine, but I just created a Cluster object and a pool, didn't do anything fancy.

Yes, they do "work", and in fact I think some people might be playing with them. They are however full of various problems, and likely need a re-write. I wouldn't rely on them for anything important.

- Noah

Re: Links to various language bindings

[Josh Durgin]

On 02/08/2013 01:06 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I knew that there were Java bindings for RADOS, but they weren't linked.
>
> Well, some searching on Github lead me to Noah's bindings [0], but it
> was a bit of searching.
>
> I expect new users to be less fortunate and end up searching endlessly
> for them.
>
> The docs say this now:
> http://ceph.com/docs/master/api/#rados-object-store-apis
>
> Only the libcephfs bindings are linked to, but they are part of the main
> repository (which still puzzles me..).
>
> For what I know bindings exist for Java[0], PHP[1] and Python, but it's
> not to be found anywhere.
>
> Shall I submit a patch to put this in the docs or should this go on
> ceph.com itself?

I think it'd be good to include in the docs.

There are also Erlang bindings written against the current api:
https://github.com/renzhi/erlrados

There are a couple written against the older api, which wouldn't work
anymore, but wouldn't be too hard to update:

Ruby: https://github.com/johnl/desperados
Haskell: https://github.com/athanatos/librados.hsc

> I'd go for the docs so we can also include some simple samples for
> people who are less experienced with Ceph/RADOS and just want to get
> started, maybe developers who's only task is just to work with RADOS.
>
> Wido
>
> [0]: https://github.com/noahdesu/java-rados
> [1]: https://github.com/ceph/phprados

Re: Links to various language bindings

[John Wilkins]

Also, be sure to open bugs and assign them to me.

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Josh Durgin <josh.durgin@inktank.com> wrote:
> On 02/08/2013 01:06 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I knew that there were Java bindings for RADOS, but they weren't linked.
>>
>> Well, some searching on Github lead me to Noah's bindings [0], but it
>> was a bit of searching.
>>
>> I expect new users to be less fortunate and end up searching endlessly
>> for them.
>>
>> The docs say this now:
>> http://ceph.com/docs/master/api/#rados-object-store-apis
>>
>> Only the libcephfs bindings are linked to, but they are part of the main
>> repository (which still puzzles me..).
>>
>> For what I know bindings exist for Java[0], PHP[1] and Python, but it's
>> not to be found anywhere.
>>
>> Shall I submit a patch to put this in the docs or should this go on
>> ceph.com itself?
>
>
> I think it'd be good to include in the docs.
>
> There are also Erlang bindings written against the current api:
> https://github.com/renzhi/erlrados
>
> There are a couple written against the older api, which wouldn't work
> anymore, but wouldn't be too hard to update:
>
> Ruby: https://github.com/johnl/desperados
> Haskell: https://github.com/athanatos/librados.hsc
>
>
>> I'd go for the docs so we can also include some simple samples for
>> people who are less experienced with Ceph/RADOS and just want to get
>> started, maybe developers who's only task is just to work with RADOS.
>>
>> Wido
>>
>> [0]: https://github.com/noahdesu/java-rados
>> [1]: https://github.com/ceph/phprados
>
>
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Re: Links to various language bindings

[Wido den Hollander]

On 02/12/2013 11:53 PM, John Wilkins wrote:
> Also, be sure to open bugs and assign them to me.
>

Yes! Although I'll probably write some docs as well (if I get them to 
build...). I'll sent patches or pull requests.

So we have the following bindings/extensions/whatever:

librados:
* Python
* Java (rados4j?)
* PHP
* C
* C++ (native)
* Ruby?

librbd:
* Python

I still want to wrap librbd in PHP and Java (CloudStack probably) as well.

Did I miss something? Anyway, I created a ticket for this: 
http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/4117

Wido


> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Josh Durgin <josh.durgin@inktank.com> wrote:
>> On 02/08/2013 01:06 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I knew that there were Java bindings for RADOS, but they weren't linked.
>>>
>>> Well, some searching on Github lead me to Noah's bindings [0], but it
>>> was a bit of searching.
>>>
>>> I expect new users to be less fortunate and end up searching endlessly
>>> for them.
>>>
>>> The docs say this now:
>>> http://ceph.com/docs/master/api/#rados-object-store-apis
>>>
>>> Only the libcephfs bindings are linked to, but they are part of the main
>>> repository (which still puzzles me..).
>>>
>>> For what I know bindings exist for Java[0], PHP[1] and Python, but it's
>>> not to be found anywhere.
>>>
>>> Shall I submit a patch to put this in the docs or should this go on
>>> ceph.com itself?
>>
>>
>> I think it'd be good to include in the docs.
>>
>> There are also Erlang bindings written against the current api:
>> https://github.com/renzhi/erlrados
>>
>> There are a couple written against the older api, which wouldn't work
>> anymore, but wouldn't be too hard to update:
>>
>> Ruby: https://github.com/johnl/desperados
>> Haskell: https://github.com/athanatos/librados.hsc
>>
>>
>>> I'd go for the docs so we can also include some simple samples for
>>> people who are less experienced with Ceph/RADOS and just want to get
>>> started, maybe developers who's only task is just to work with RADOS.
>>>
>>> Wido
>>>
>>> [0]: https://github.com/noahdesu/java-rados
>>> [1]: https://github.com/ceph/phprados
>>
>>
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>
>


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