* Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Serbia (RS) on 2.4 and 5GHz [not found] <CAL1G+-HfPJnwvisiE5Vr0ihenwKzL3_QL40DLPP_PsPyv+nveQ@mail.gmail.com> @ 2013-02-06 19:25 ` John W. Linville 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: John W. Linville @ 2013-02-06 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ognjen Ikovic; +Cc: wireless-regdb, linux-wireless, robertbasic.com Ognjen, Thank you so much for this timely message! I apologize for having overlooked it so far. I don't suppose that you could translate the information you have provided into the format used within the regulatory database file? Also, could you provide a link to the original regulatory document (even if it is in Serbian)? Ideally you could post a patch for the db.txt file. If that is a problem, simply posting the information should be sufficient. Thanks! John On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 03:18:56PM +0100, Ognjen Ikovic wrote: > Dear Mr. John, > > my name is Ognjen Ikovic and I am R&D engineer from Novi Sad, Serbia. I > have noticed that You are listed as maintainer for the wireless-regdb > database, congratulations on a fine work You are doing. > > I have noticed the following inputs in the regulatory database for Serbia > which are not in line with regulatory documents for Serbia: > > country RS: > # 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567 > (57240 - 65880 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), NO-OUTDOOR > > I was wondering if You could, please, update the regulatory database with > new information: > > *WAS/RLANs for indoor usage:* > 1. Frequency Band 2400-2483.5 MHz; Power 100mW e.i.r.p.; Channel spacing: > None; > CEPT document: ERC/DEC/(01)07, ERC/DEC/(04)07, ERC/REC/70-03; ETSI > standard EN 300 328 > > 2. Frequency Band 5150-5350 MHz; Power 200mW e.i.r.p.; > CEPT document: ERC/DEC/(99)24, ECC/DEC/(04)08, ERC/REC/70-03; ETSI > standard: EN 300 836, EN 301 893 > > *WAS/RLANs for outdoor usage:* > 1. Frequency Band 2400-2483.5 MHz; Power 100mW e.i.r.p.; Channel spacing: > None; > CEPT document: ERC/DEC/(01)07, ERC/REC/70-03; ETSI standard EN 300 328 > > 2. Frequency Band 5470-5725 MHz; Power 1W e.i.r.p; Channel spacing: 20 > MHz; TCP required 3dB; DFS required; > CEPT document: ECC/DEC/(04)08; ETSI standard: EN 301 893 > > I have regulatory document with these information, but it is on Serbian > language. If You need more information regarding this subject do not > hesitate to contact me. > > Best regards, > > Ognjen Ikovic > > -- > Ognjen Ikovic > Staff engineer > ognjen.ikovic@lacitadelleing.com > +381640272551 > LaCitadelle Inzenjering > www.lacitadelleing.com -- John W. Linville Someday the world will need a hero, and you linville@tuxdriver.com might be all we have. Be ready. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [wireless-regdb] wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Serbia (RS) on 2.4 and 5GHz @ 2013-02-06 19:25 ` John W. Linville 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: John W. Linville @ 2013-02-06 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ognjen Ikovic; +Cc: linux-wireless, wireless-regdb, robertbasic.com Ognjen, Thank you so much for this timely message! I apologize for having overlooked it so far. I don't suppose that you could translate the information you have provided into the format used within the regulatory database file? Also, could you provide a link to the original regulatory document (even if it is in Serbian)? Ideally you could post a patch for the db.txt file. If that is a problem, simply posting the information should be sufficient. Thanks! John On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 03:18:56PM +0100, Ognjen Ikovic wrote: > Dear Mr. John, > > my name is Ognjen Ikovic and I am R&D engineer from Novi Sad, Serbia. I > have noticed that You are listed as maintainer for the wireless-regdb > database, congratulations on a fine work You are doing. > > I have noticed the following inputs in the regulatory database for Serbia > which are not in line with regulatory documents for Serbia: > > country RS: > # 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567 > (57240 - 65880 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), NO-OUTDOOR > > I was wondering if You could, please, update the regulatory database with > new information: > > *WAS/RLANs for indoor usage:* > 1. Frequency Band 2400-2483.5 MHz; Power 100mW e.i.r.p.; Channel spacing: > None; > CEPT document: ERC/DEC/(01)07, ERC/DEC/(04)07, ERC/REC/70-03; ETSI > standard EN 300 328 > > 2. Frequency Band 5150-5350 MHz; Power 200mW e.i.r.p.; > CEPT document: ERC/DEC/(99)24, ECC/DEC/(04)08, ERC/REC/70-03; ETSI > standard: EN 300 836, EN 301 893 > > *WAS/RLANs for outdoor usage:* > 1. Frequency Band 2400-2483.5 MHz; Power 100mW e.i.r.p.; Channel spacing: > None; > CEPT document: ERC/DEC/(01)07, ERC/REC/70-03; ETSI standard EN 300 328 > > 2. Frequency Band 5470-5725 MHz; Power 1W e.i.r.p; Channel spacing: 20 > MHz; TCP required 3dB; DFS required; > CEPT document: ECC/DEC/(04)08; ETSI standard: EN 301 893 > > I have regulatory document with these information, but it is on Serbian > language. If You need more information regarding this subject do not > hesitate to contact me. > > Best regards, > > Ognjen Ikovic > > -- > Ognjen Ikovic > Staff engineer > ognjen.ikovic@lacitadelleing.com > +381640272551 > LaCitadelle Inzenjering > www.lacitadelleing.com -- John W. Linville Someday the world will need a hero, and you linville@tuxdriver.com might be all we have. Be ready. _______________________________________________ wireless-regdb mailing list wireless-regdb@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless-regdb ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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* Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Serbia (RS) on 2.4 and 5GHz [not found] ` <CAL1G+-EFnW4Ftq7omTUfFOxTSnKEU8WhAM+azw_Q9yHMesufaA@mail.gmail.com> @ 2013-02-07 9:20 ` Robert Basic 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Robert Basic @ 2013-02-07 9:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ognjen Ikovic; +Cc: John W. Linville, wireless-regdb, linux-wireless Good day all! On 7 February 2013 09:54, Ognjen Ikovic <ognjen.ikovic@lacitadelleing.com> wrote: > Dear John, > > I am not familiar with the process of posting patches, so please find > information You have required bellow: > > country RS: > (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW) > (5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR > (5470 - 5725 @ 20), (3, 1 W), DFS > > Link to the original regulatory document (I have found a version on English) > can be found here: > http://www.ratel.rs/upload/editor_files/File/Regulations/Rules/Rules%20on%20radio-stations%20for%20which%20radio-station%20licence%20is%20not%20required.pdf > > Please refer to tables on pages 9 and 10 of the provided document. > I have found the same document, but I also have found another one http://www.ratel.rs/upload/documents/Plan_namene/Plan-namene-tabele.pdf sadly it is available only in Serbian Cyrillic. This document shows the "Allocation plan" of the RF ranges. On pages 217-221 it lists "Broadband wireless networks for data transfer" from roughly 57GHz to 66GHz. Now, this being just a "plan" means that most likely in the future it will indeed be at 60GHz, but it is not yet implemented. I don't know how else to read these documents. Maybe Ognjen can provide more insight into this. Thanks! Regards, Robert ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [wireless-regdb] wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Serbia (RS) on 2.4 and 5GHz 2013-02-06 19:25 ` [wireless-regdb] " John W. Linville @ 2013-02-13 22:44 ` Xose Vazquez Perez -1 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Xose Vazquez Perez @ 2013-02-13 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-wireless, wireless-regdb, John W. Linville On 02/06/2013 08:25 PM, John W. Linville wrote: > Thank you so much for this timely message! I apologize for having > overlooked it so far. > > I don't suppose that you could translate the information you have > provided into the format used within the regulatory database file? > Also, could you provide a link to the original regulatory document > (even if it is in Serbian)? Serbia is under ETSI/CEPT rules( ECC/DEC/(04)08 ), see summary[1]: 5 GHz current rules are too much liberal and incomplete: country RS: (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW) (5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR (5470 - 5725 @ 20), (3, 1000 mW), DFS # 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567 (57240 - 65880 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), NO-OUTDOOR They should be changed to "standard" ETSI rules: (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW) (5150 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR (5250 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 500 mW), DFS # 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567 (57240 - 65880 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), NO-OUTDOOR http://www.erodocdb.dk/doks/implement_doc_adm.aspx?docid=2033 http://www.erodocdb.dk/doks/implement_adm_doc.aspx?ITUID=48&ITUSHORT=RS&ITULONG=Serbia Contact point for implementation status: Ms Jelena Surculija <jelena.surculija@mtid.gov.rs> Dr Milan Jankovic <milan.jankovic@ratel.org.rs> [1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/wireless-regdb/2012-June/000058.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [wireless-regdb] wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Serbia (RS) on 2.4 and 5GHz @ 2013-02-13 22:44 ` Xose Vazquez Perez 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Xose Vazquez Perez @ 2013-02-13 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-wireless, wireless-regdb, John W. Linville On 02/06/2013 08:25 PM, John W. Linville wrote: > Thank you so much for this timely message! I apologize for having > overlooked it so far. > > I don't suppose that you could translate the information you have > provided into the format used within the regulatory database file? > Also, could you provide a link to the original regulatory document > (even if it is in Serbian)? Serbia is under ETSI/CEPT rules( ECC/DEC/(04)08 ), see summary[1]: 5 GHz current rules are too much liberal and incomplete: country RS: (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW) (5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR (5470 - 5725 @ 20), (3, 1000 mW), DFS # 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567 (57240 - 65880 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), NO-OUTDOOR They should be changed to "standard" ETSI rules: (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW) (5150 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR (5250 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 500 mW), DFS # 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567 (57240 - 65880 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), NO-OUTDOOR http://www.erodocdb.dk/doks/implement_doc_adm.aspx?docid=2033 http://www.erodocdb.dk/doks/implement_adm_doc.aspx?ITUID=48&ITUSHORT=RS&ITULONG=Serbia Contact point for implementation status: Ms Jelena Surculija <jelena.surculija@mtid.gov.rs> Dr Milan Jankovic <milan.jankovic@ratel.org.rs> [1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/wireless-regdb/2012-June/000058.html _______________________________________________ wireless-regdb mailing list wireless-regdb@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless-regdb ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [wireless-regdb] wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Serbia (RS) on 2.4 and 5GHz 2013-02-13 22:44 ` Xose Vazquez Perez @ 2013-02-14 0:02 ` Xose Vazquez Perez -1 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Xose Vazquez Perez @ 2013-02-14 0:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-wireless, wireless-regdb, John W. Linville On 02/13/2013 11:44 PM, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: > Serbia is under ETSI/CEPT rules( ECC/DEC/(04)08 ), see summary[1]: > > 5 GHz current rules are too much liberal and incomplete: > > country RS: > (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW) > (5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR > (5470 - 5725 @ 20), (3, 1000 mW), DFS > # 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567 > (57240 - 65880 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), NO-OUTDOOR > They should be changed to "standard" ETSI rules: > (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW) > (5150 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR > (5250 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS > (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 500 mW), DFS > # 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567 > (57240 - 65880 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), NO-OUTDOOR sorry, 5150-5250 should be 200 mW: (5150 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR <http://www.erodocdb.dk/Docs/doc98/official/pdf/ECCDEC0408.PDF> 2. that in the frequency band 5.150-5.350 MHz, WAS/RLANs stations shall be restricted to indoor use with a maximum mean e.i.r.p. of 200 mW and a maximum mean e.i.r.p. density of 10 mW/MHz in any 1MHz band; ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [wireless-regdb] wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Serbia (RS) on 2.4 and 5GHz @ 2013-02-14 0:02 ` Xose Vazquez Perez 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Xose Vazquez Perez @ 2013-02-14 0:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-wireless, wireless-regdb, John W. Linville On 02/13/2013 11:44 PM, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: > Serbia is under ETSI/CEPT rules( ECC/DEC/(04)08 ), see summary[1]: > > 5 GHz current rules are too much liberal and incomplete: > > country RS: > (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW) > (5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR > (5470 - 5725 @ 20), (3, 1000 mW), DFS > # 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567 > (57240 - 65880 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), NO-OUTDOOR > They should be changed to "standard" ETSI rules: > (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW) > (5150 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR > (5250 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS > (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 500 mW), DFS > # 60 gHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567 > (57240 - 65880 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), NO-OUTDOOR sorry, 5150-5250 should be 200 mW: (5150 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR <http://www.erodocdb.dk/Docs/doc98/official/pdf/ECCDEC0408.PDF> 2. that in the frequency band 5.150-5.350 MHz, WAS/RLANs stations shall be restricted to indoor use with a maximum mean e.i.r.p. of 200 mW and a maximum mean e.i.r.p. density of 10 mW/MHz in any 1MHz band; _______________________________________________ wireless-regdb mailing list wireless-regdb@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless-regdb ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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