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* trace IDLE VCPU using xenalyze --scatterplot-pcpu?
@ 2013-03-26 19:12 Sisu Xi
  2013-03-27  2:15 ` Dario Faggioli
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sisu Xi @ 2013-03-26 19:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel

Hi, All:

I was following the article here to plot the scheduler execution trace.
http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2012/09/27/tracing-with-xentrace-and-xenalyze/

I was able to get the trace and plot it, however, the trace for IDLE
VCPU is skipped. This makes it harder to understand the scheduler
behavior (For example, cap in credit).

Does anyone know how to get the data for the IDLE VCPU when using
xenalyze --scatterplot-pcpu?

Thanks very much!

Sisu


-- 
Sisu Xi, PhD Candidate

http://www.cse.wustl.edu/~xis/
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Campus Box 1045
Washington University in St. Louis
One Brookings Drive
St. Louis, MO 63130

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* Re: trace IDLE VCPU using xenalyze --scatterplot-pcpu?
  2013-03-26 19:12 trace IDLE VCPU using xenalyze --scatterplot-pcpu? Sisu Xi
@ 2013-03-27  2:15 ` Dario Faggioli
  2013-03-27 10:23   ` George Dunlap
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dario Faggioli @ 2013-03-27  2:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sisu Xi; +Cc: George Dunlap, xen-devel


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On mar, 2013-03-26 at 14:12 -0500, Sisu Xi wrote:
> Hi, All:
> 
Hi Sisu!

> I was following the article here to plot the scheduler execution trace.
> http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2012/09/27/tracing-with-xentrace-and-xenalyze/
>
> I was able to get the trace and plot it, 
>
EhEh, glad it was helpful! :-P

> however, the trace for IDLE
> VCPU is skipped. This makes it harder to understand the scheduler
> behavior (For example, cap in credit).
> 
Mmmm... I think I see what you mean.

> Does anyone know how to get the data for the IDLE VCPU when using
> xenalyze --scatterplot-pcpu?
> 
Well, I double-checked and it is true that, at least here,
--scatterplot-pcpu does not show the vCPUs of the idle domain. One could
probably try to understand when they're scheduled by looking at when
_no_other_ vCPU of any other domain runs on a particular pCPU (and
considering that the idle domain has one vCPU pinned to each pCPU), but
that would be quite unpractical I guess...

Perhaps you can achieve something similar to what you need by looking
for/plotting the runstate changes for the vCPUs of the idle domain
(i.e., 32767vXX from `xenalyze --scatterplot-runstate') ?

George, any other ideas?

Regards,
Dario

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* Re: trace IDLE VCPU using xenalyze --scatterplot-pcpu?
  2013-03-27  2:15 ` Dario Faggioli
@ 2013-03-27 10:23   ` George Dunlap
  2013-03-27 19:47     ` Sisu Xi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: George Dunlap @ 2013-03-27 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dario Faggioli; +Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Sisu Xi

On 27/03/13 02:15, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> On mar, 2013-03-26 at 14:12 -0500, Sisu Xi wrote:
>> Hi, All:
>>
> Hi Sisu!
>
>> I was following the article here to plot the scheduler execution trace.
>> http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2012/09/27/tracing-with-xentrace-and-xenalyze/
>>
>> I was able to get the trace and plot it,
>>
> EhEh, glad it was helpful! :-P
>
>> however, the trace for IDLE
>> VCPU is skipped. This makes it harder to understand the scheduler
>> behavior (For example, cap in credit).
>>
> Mmmm... I think I see what you mean.
>
>> Does anyone know how to get the data for the IDLE VCPU when using
>> xenalyze --scatterplot-pcpu?
>>
> Well, I double-checked and it is true that, at least here,
> --scatterplot-pcpu does not show the vCPUs of the idle domain. One could
> probably try to understand when they're scheduled by looking at when
> _no_other_ vCPU of any other domain runs on a particular pCPU (and
> considering that the idle domain has one vCPU pinned to each pCPU), but
> that would be quite unpractical I guess...
>
> Perhaps you can achieve something similar to what you need by looking
> for/plotting the runstate changes for the vCPUs of the idle domain
> (i.e., 32767vXX from `xenalyze --scatterplot-runstate') ?
>
> George, any other ideas?

Well, I always intendended xenalyze to be a tool you could modify to add 
functionality as-needed; more like a library of useful analytical 
functions than a finished product.  --scatterplot-pcpu doesn't show 
vcpus of the idle domain because I found it extraneous and confusing, so 
I excluded it:

     if ( opt.scatterplot_pcpu
          && next->d->did != IDLE_DOMAIN
          && next->d->did != DEFAULT_DOMAIN )
     {

If you just want to make the change locally, you can just take out the 
one line about the IDLE_DOMAIN.  I'd be happy to take a patch to 
xenalyze to add an option to show the idle domain as well.  (Maybe 
"--with-idle-domain" as a general way to say, 'don't exclude the idle 
domain from the output'?)

  -George

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* Re: trace IDLE VCPU using xenalyze --scatterplot-pcpu?
  2013-03-27 10:23   ` George Dunlap
@ 2013-03-27 19:47     ` Sisu Xi
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sisu Xi @ 2013-03-27 19:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: George Dunlap; +Cc: Dario Faggioli, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com

Hi, Dario and George:

Thanks for your quick reply and help!

I comments out the line and got the trace for IDLE Domain.  :)

Sisu

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 5:23 AM, George Dunlap
<george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> On 27/03/13 02:15, Dario Faggioli wrote:
>>
>> On mar, 2013-03-26 at 14:12 -0500, Sisu Xi wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, All:
>>>
>> Hi Sisu!
>>
>>> I was following the article here to plot the scheduler execution trace.
>>>
>>> http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2012/09/27/tracing-with-xentrace-and-xenalyze/
>>>
>>> I was able to get the trace and plot it,
>>>
>> EhEh, glad it was helpful! :-P
>>
>>> however, the trace for IDLE
>>> VCPU is skipped. This makes it harder to understand the scheduler
>>> behavior (For example, cap in credit).
>>>
>> Mmmm... I think I see what you mean.
>>
>>> Does anyone know how to get the data for the IDLE VCPU when using
>>> xenalyze --scatterplot-pcpu?
>>>
>> Well, I double-checked and it is true that, at least here,
>> --scatterplot-pcpu does not show the vCPUs of the idle domain. One could
>> probably try to understand when they're scheduled by looking at when
>> _no_other_ vCPU of any other domain runs on a particular pCPU (and
>> considering that the idle domain has one vCPU pinned to each pCPU), but
>> that would be quite unpractical I guess...
>>
>> Perhaps you can achieve something similar to what you need by looking
>> for/plotting the runstate changes for the vCPUs of the idle domain
>> (i.e., 32767vXX from `xenalyze --scatterplot-runstate') ?
>>
>> George, any other ideas?
>
>
> Well, I always intendended xenalyze to be a tool you could modify to add
> functionality as-needed; more like a library of useful analytical functions
> than a finished product.  --scatterplot-pcpu doesn't show vcpus of the idle
> domain because I found it extraneous and confusing, so I excluded it:
>
>     if ( opt.scatterplot_pcpu
>          && next->d->did != IDLE_DOMAIN
>          && next->d->did != DEFAULT_DOMAIN )
>     {
>
> If you just want to make the change locally, you can just take out the one
> line about the IDLE_DOMAIN.  I'd be happy to take a patch to xenalyze to add
> an option to show the idle domain as well.  (Maybe "--with-idle-domain" as a
> general way to say, 'don't exclude the idle domain from the output'?)
>
>  -George



-- 
Sisu Xi, PhD Candidate

http://www.cse.wustl.edu/~xis/
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Campus Box 1045
Washington University in St. Louis
One Brookings Drive
St. Louis, MO 63130

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