Repository to upgrade images

Repository to upgrade images

[Edward Vidal]

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Hello,
Are there any plans to provide a repo of pkgs where systems can be upgraded
and new pkgs installed like other distro Fedora, CentOS, and rhel?  This
would also require yum or the new software that is replacing yum.

Also  for my Fedora, CentOS, and rhel systems I use cobbler for network
installs and liveDVD.  For cobbler you need a repository and and the target
needs to be able to support PXE.  Does any of embedded boards support PXE?
I need gfortran and numy support.  I have tried modifying the files
gcc-configure-common.inc with (LANGUAGES ?= "c,c++${FORTRAN}${JAVA}" to
LANGUAGES ?= "c,c++,fortran${JAVA}"  and gcc-configure-runtime.inc with (
RUNTIMETARGET = "libssp libstdc++-v3 libgomp" to RUNTIMETARGET = "libssp
libstdc++-v3 libgomp libgfortran").  these changes both cause
core-image-sato-sdk-ex to file.

Thanks any and all help will be appreciated.

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Re: Repository to upgrade images

[Burton, Ross]

On 16 April 2013 20:02, Edward Vidal <vidal.develone@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are there any plans to provide a repo of pkgs where systems can be upgraded
> and new pkgs installed like other distro Fedora, CentOS, and rhel?  This
> would also require yum or the new software that is replacing yum.

Do you mean for upgrading images built using Yocto?  This is already
possible, the contents of tmp/deploy/[package format] is a package
repository.  If you use rpm you'll have zypper (danny and below) or
smart (dylan onwards).

Ross

Re: Repository to upgrade images

[Trevor Woerner]

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Edward Vidal <vidal.develone@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are there any plans to provide a repo of pkgs where systems can be upgraded
> and new pkgs installed like other distro Fedora, CentOS, and rhel?  This
> would also require yum or the new software that is replacing yum.

I doubt it. The Yocto Project is not an embedded Linux distribution –
it creates a custom one for you. Providing a public package upgrade
repository is fine for a given distribution (e.g. Fedora, Debian, etc)
because it can make assumptions regarding the compiler, c library,
build/configuration options, etc. If you are creating your own
distributions, any of those variable can be tweaked, therefore making
any such public repository useless.

If you would like to have such an ability for your devices, you'll
need have to create your own public site and build the packages
yourself (all of which will incorporate any of your specific
"tweaks"). Yocto will help you do that (and make it easy) but doing
this in a generic way for everyone's Yocto distribution would be
impossible (I would think).

> Does any of embedded boards support PXE?

Whether or not a board can boot via TFTP is a function of the
bootloader. u-boot supports TFTP booting so theoretically this should
be possible. Whether or not TFTP is enabled in your u-boot build
and/or whether or not your BSP includes and builds your own u-boot is
another question.

Re: Repository to upgrade images

[Edward Vidal]

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With that said how does Angstrom which uses opkg upgrades images that are
build with Angstrom.   I prefer Yocto but I had some pre-built image that
came with my beagleboard and I used opkg upgrade  and opkg install
gfortran.   Also has anyone built gfortran, libgfortran, and numpy?
Currently these are some dependencies that I need for GNURADIO?
Thanks Any and all help is appreciated
Ed


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Trevor Woerner <twoerner@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Edward Vidal <vidal.develone@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Are there any plans to provide a repo of pkgs where systems can be
> upgraded
> > and new pkgs installed like other distro Fedora, CentOS, and rhel?  This
> > would also require yum or the new software that is replacing yum.
>
> I doubt it. The Yocto Project is not an embedded Linux distribution –
> it creates a custom one for you. Providing a public package upgrade
> repository is fine for a given distribution (e.g. Fedora, Debian, etc)
> because it can make assumptions regarding the compiler, c library,
> build/configuration options, etc. If you are creating your own
> distributions, any of those variable can be tweaked, therefore making
> any such public repository useless.
>
> If you would like to have such an ability for your devices, you'll
> need have to create your own public site and build the packages
> yourself (all of which will incorporate any of your specific
> "tweaks"). Yocto will help you do that (and make it easy) but doing
> this in a generic way for everyone's Yocto distribution would be
> impossible (I would think).
>
> > Does any of embedded boards support PXE?
>
> Whether or not a board can boot via TFTP is a function of the
> bootloader. u-boot supports TFTP booting so theoretically this should
> be possible. Whether or not TFTP is enabled in your u-boot build
> and/or whether or not your BSP includes and builds your own u-boot is
> another question.
>

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Re: Repository to upgrade images

[Trevor Woerner]

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Edward Vidal <vidal.develone@gmail.com> wrote:
> With that said how does Angstrom which uses opkg upgrades images that are
> build with Angstrom.

Angstrom is a distribution, so it can make assumptions about how to
build a set of packages that will work on your system.

Re: Repository to upgrade images

[Martin Jansa]

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On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:49:13PM -0600, Edward Vidal wrote:
> With that said how does Angstrom which uses opkg upgrades images that are
> build with Angstrom.   I prefer Yocto but I had some pre-built image that

The same mechanism as Ross and Trevor said.

> came with my beagleboard and I used opkg upgrade  and opkg install
> gfortran.   Also has anyone built gfortran, libgfortran, and numpy?
> Currently these are some dependencies that I need for GNURADIO?
> Thanks Any and all help is appreciated
> Ed

gnuradio is already in meta-oe and jenkins is building it every day with
it :).

-- 
Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com

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Re: Repository to upgrade images

[Edward Vidal]

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Can you point me to where I can find

gnuradio is already in meta-oe and jenkins is building it every day with
it :).
I did a search meta-oe jenkins nothing seems to come up I have seen
meta-gnurado as part 0f Angstrom.  I believe that is for the processor
in the ettus research board.

Thanks



On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:49:13PM -0600, Edward Vidal wrote:
> > With that said how does Angstrom which uses opkg upgrades images that are
> > build with Angstrom.   I prefer Yocto but I had some pre-built image that
>
> The same mechanism as Ross and Trevor said.
>
> > came with my beagleboard and I used opkg upgrade  and opkg install
> > gfortran.   Also has anyone built gfortran, libgfortran, and numpy?
> > Currently these are some dependencies that I need for GNURADIO?
> > Thanks Any and all help is appreciated
> > Ed
>
> gnuradio is already in meta-oe and jenkins is building it every day with
> it :).
>
> --
> Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com
>

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Re: Repository to upgrade images

[Martin Jansa]

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On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:40:21PM -0600, Edward Vidal wrote:
> Can you point me to where I can find
> 
> gnuradio is already in meta-oe and jenkins is building it every day with
> it :).
> I did a search meta-oe jenkins nothing seems to come up I have seen
> meta-gnurado as part 0f Angstrom.  I believe that is for the processor
> in the ettus research board.

I meant this:
http://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/recipes-connectivity/gnuradio/gnuradio_git.bb
not sure what you're looking for.

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:49:13PM -0600, Edward Vidal wrote:
> > > With that said how does Angstrom which uses opkg upgrades images that are
> > > build with Angstrom.   I prefer Yocto but I had some pre-built image that
> >
> > The same mechanism as Ross and Trevor said.
> >
> > > came with my beagleboard and I used opkg upgrade  and opkg install
> > > gfortran.   Also has anyone built gfortran, libgfortran, and numpy?
> > > Currently these are some dependencies that I need for GNURADIO?
> > > Thanks Any and all help is appreciated
> > > Ed
> >
> > gnuradio is already in meta-oe and jenkins is building it every day with
> > it :).
> >
> > --
> > Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com
> >

-- 
Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com

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Re: Repository to upgrade images

[Edward Vidal]

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Martin,
I should be able to add meta-openembedded like I added meta-ti by adding to
bblayers.conf is that correct?
I fetch with git clone git://openembedded.org/meta-openembedded
Thanks


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:40:21PM -0600, Edward Vidal wrote:
> > Can you point me to where I can find
> >
> > gnuradio is already in meta-oe and jenkins is building it every day with
> > it :).
> > I did a search meta-oe jenkins nothing seems to come up I have seen
> > meta-gnurado as part 0f Angstrom.  I believe that is for the processor
> > in the ettus research board.
>
> I meant this:
>
> http://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/recipes-connectivity/gnuradio/gnuradio_git.bb
> not sure what you're looking for.
>
> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:49:13PM -0600, Edward Vidal wrote:
> > > > With that said how does Angstrom which uses opkg upgrades images
> that are
> > > > build with Angstrom.   I prefer Yocto but I had some pre-built image
> that
> > >
> > > The same mechanism as Ross and Trevor said.
> > >
> > > > came with my beagleboard and I used opkg upgrade  and opkg install
> > > > gfortran.   Also has anyone built gfortran, libgfortran, and numpy?
> > > > Currently these are some dependencies that I need for GNURADIO?
> > > > Thanks Any and all help is appreciated
> > > > Ed
> > >
> > > gnuradio is already in meta-oe and jenkins is building it every day
> with
> > > it :).
> > >
> > > --
> > > Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com
> > >
>
> --
> Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com
>

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Re: Repository to upgrade images

[Khem Raj]

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On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Edward Vidal <vidal.develone@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Martin,
> I should be able to add meta-openembedded like I added meta-ti by adding to bblayers.conf is that correct?
> I fetch with git clone git://openembedded.org/meta-openembedded

use the github mirrors always

e.g.

https://github.com/openembedded/meta-oe

> Thanks
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:40:21PM -0600, Edward Vidal wrote:
> > Can you point me to where I can find
> >
> > gnuradio is already in meta-oe and jenkins is building it every day with
> > it :).
> > I did a search meta-oe jenkins nothing seems to come up I have seen
> > meta-gnurado as part 0f Angstrom.  I believe that is for the processor
> > in the ettus research board.
> 
> I meant this:
> http://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/recipes-connectivity/gnuradio/gnuradio_git.bb
> not sure what you're looking for.
> 
> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:49:13PM -0600, Edward Vidal wrote:
> > > > With that said how does Angstrom which uses opkg upgrades images that are
> > > > build with Angstrom.   I prefer Yocto but I had some pre-built image that
> > >
> > > The same mechanism as Ross and Trevor said.
> > >
> > > > came with my beagleboard and I used opkg upgrade  and opkg install
> > > > gfortran.   Also has anyone built gfortran, libgfortran, and numpy?
> > > > Currently these are some dependencies that I need for GNURADIO?
> > > > Thanks Any and all help is appreciated
> > > > Ed
> > >
> > > gnuradio is already in meta-oe and jenkins is building it every day with
> > > it :).
> > >
> > > --
> > > Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com
> > >
> 
> --
> Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Repository to upgrade images

[Philip Balister]

On 04/16/2013 04:40 PM, Edward Vidal wrote:
> Can you point me to where I can find

Maybe you should give us some more details. It doesn't look like the
angstrom feeds ahve a package for gnuradio, but we can ask Koen if he
can add it.

If you are building custom images, just add gnuradio to the
IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL var (or whatever it is called). Check how gnuradio
is packaged, you may need some other packages for all desired features.

Philip

> 
> gnuradio is already in meta-oe and jenkins is building it every day with
> it :).
> I did a search meta-oe jenkins nothing seems to come up I have seen
> meta-gnurado as part 0f Angstrom.  I believe that is for the processor
> in the ettus research board.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:49:13PM -0600, Edward Vidal wrote:
>>> With that said how does Angstrom which uses opkg upgrades images that are
>>> build with Angstrom.   I prefer Yocto but I had some pre-built image that
>>
>> The same mechanism as Ross and Trevor said.
>>
>>> came with my beagleboard and I used opkg upgrade  and opkg install
>>> gfortran.   Also has anyone built gfortran, libgfortran, and numpy?
>>> Currently these are some dependencies that I need for GNURADIO?
>>> Thanks Any and all help is appreciated
>>> Ed
>>
>> gnuradio is already in meta-oe and jenkins is building it every day with
>> it :).
>>
>> --
>> Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com
>>
> 
> 
> 
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> yocto mailing list
> yocto@yoctoproject.org
> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto
> 

Re: Repository to upgrade images

[Burton, Ross]

On 16 April 2013 20:15, Trevor Woerner <twoerner@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Edward Vidal <vidal.develone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Are there any plans to provide a repo of pkgs where systems can be upgraded
>> and new pkgs installed like other distro Fedora, CentOS, and rhel?  This
>> would also require yum or the new software that is replacing yum.
>
> I doubt it. The Yocto Project is not an embedded Linux distribution –
> it creates a custom one for you. Providing a public package upgrade
> repository is fine for a given distribution (e.g. Fedora, Debian, etc)
> because it can make assumptions regarding the compiler, c library,
> build/configuration options, etc. If you are creating your own
> distributions, any of those variable can be tweaked, therefore making
> any such public repository useless.
>
> If you would like to have such an ability for your devices, you'll
> need have to create your own public site and build the packages
> yourself (all of which will incorporate any of your specific
> "tweaks"). Yocto will help you do that (and make it easy) but doing
> this in a generic way for everyone's Yocto distribution would be
> impossible (I would think).

Yes, a generic approach would be impossible because of the nature of
Yocto.  As an example though, the Angstrom distribution that is build
using the Yocto Project *does* expose and support package feeds for
on-device upgrades.

Ross