* summit: erasure coding
@ 2013-05-09 15:23 Sage Weil
2013-05-09 21:14 ` Loic Dachary
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From: Sage Weil @ 2013-05-09 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ceph-devel
We have a great session with Loic, Christopher, Sam, and Greg that
discussed how to move forward with erasure coding support. The high-level
consensus on approach:
- it is possible to do erasure coding above rados across distinct pools,
but it is harder, and less useful.
- we should have an ErasureCodedPG that takes advantage of CRUSH's
placement to place shards
- we can support a limited subset of rados operations for such pools and
still be useful (write_full, or write/append on block boundaries)
- this will be used in conjuction with a replicated pool as a second tier
of storage, or by applications that are happy with a limited subset of
commands.
That said, the implementation will be non-trivial. But, we identified
several areas where code cleanup will move us down the right path. By
factoring our useful components of PG and ReplicatedPG into separate
classes, we clean up the current interfaces and can also build unit tests
for them as we do so for immediate benefit.
Initial focus areas:
- clean up the OSD -> PG interface (PG -> OSD is already reasonably well
captured by teh OSDService class)
- ObjectContext tracking
- PG log handling
- PG missing
- RepOp state
- Peering state machine
The last one willb e most tricky (and saved for last). In each case,
we'll have to think carefully about how well things generalize from
replication to erasure coding.
Loic has volunteered to own this work, and Sam and I will be supporting.
He'll also be joining our daily core standup. Yay!
sage
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* Re: summit: erasure coding
2013-05-09 15:23 summit: erasure coding Sage Weil
@ 2013-05-09 21:14 ` Loic Dachary
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From: Loic Dachary @ 2013-05-09 21:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sage Weil; +Cc: ceph-devel
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Hi Sage,
I've created "PG/ReplicatedPG API" ( http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/4928 ) for the first action item:
> - clean up the OSD -> PG interface
and started with IPG class to be used in place of PG/ReplicatedPG ( https://github.com/dachary/ceph/commit/66d798753fc90e0daa7d8ce92ef7b692e259484f ).
I'll join the standup tomorrow ( past two days were hollidays in France ;-)
Cheers
On 05/09/2013 05:23 PM, Sage Weil wrote:
> We have a great session with Loic, Christopher, Sam, and Greg that
> discussed how to move forward with erasure coding support. The high-level
> consensus on approach:
>
> - it is possible to do erasure coding above rados across distinct pools,
> but it is harder, and less useful.
> - we should have an ErasureCodedPG that takes advantage of CRUSH's
> placement to place shards
> - we can support a limited subset of rados operations for such pools and
> still be useful (write_full, or write/append on block boundaries)
> - this will be used in conjuction with a replicated pool as a second tier
> of storage, or by applications that are happy with a limited subset of
> commands.
>
> That said, the implementation will be non-trivial. But, we identified
> several areas where code cleanup will move us down the right path. By
> factoring our useful components of PG and ReplicatedPG into separate
> classes, we clean up the current interfaces and can also build unit tests
> for them as we do so for immediate benefit.
>
> Initial focus areas:
>
> - clean up the OSD -> PG interface (PG -> OSD is already reasonably well
> captured by teh OSDService class)
> - ObjectContext tracking
> - PG log handling
> - PG missing
> - RepOp state
> - Peering state machine
>
> The last one willb e most tricky (and saved for last). In each case,
> we'll have to think carefully about how well things generalize from
> replication to erasure coding.
>
> Loic has volunteered to own this work, and Sam and I will be supporting.
> He'll also be joining our daily core standup. Yay!
>
> sage
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