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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Yongjie Ren <yongjie.ren@intel.com>,
	yanqiangjun@huawei.com, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	hanweidong@huawei.com, Xudong Hao <xudong.hao@intel.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	luonengjun@huawei.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	wangzhenguo@huawei.com, xiaowei.yang@huawei.com,
	arei.gonglei@huawei.com, YongweiX Xu <yongweix.xu@intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	SongtaoX Liu <songtaox.liu@intel.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] [BUG 1747]Guest could't find bootable device with memory more than 3600M
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:25:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51B892D8.5040401@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51B89F9D02000078000DD9F4@nat28.tlf.novell.com>

On 12/06/13 15:19, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 12.06.13 at 16:02, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Il 12/06/2013 09:49, Jan Beulich ha scritto:
>>>> #3 should be possible or even the default (would need to check), but #4
>>>> is probably a bit harder to do.  Perhaps you can use a magic I/O port
>>>> for the xen platform PV driver, but if you can simply use two PCI
>>>> windows it would be much simpler because that's the same that TCG and
>>>> KVM already do.  The code is all there for you to lift in SeaBIOS.
>>> What is the connection here to the platform PV driver?
>> It's just a hook you already have for Xen-specific stuff in QEMU.
> Oh, sorry, I'm generally taking this term to refer to a Linux
> component.
>
>>>> Only Windows XP and older had problems with that because they didn't
>>>> like something in the ASL; but the 64-bit window is placed at the end of
>>>> RAM, so in principle any PAE-enabled OS can use it.
>>> At the end of _RAM_???
>> Why the question marks? :)
> Ah, so mean right after RAM. "At the end of RAM" reads like
> overlapping (and discarding) the tail of it.
>
>> If you have 4GB of RAM it will end at 0x140000000 (or something like
>> that) and that's where the 64-bit window starts.  Of course if you have
>> no RAM above the PCI hole, the 64-bit window will start at 0x100000000.
> So there's no provision whatsoever for extending the amount of RAM
> a guest may see? This is why I'd see any such allocation strategy to
> start at the end of physical address space, moving downwards.

Is there a mechanism to do memory hot-plug in qemu at the moment? If 
not, then there's no reason to put it anywhere else.

  -George

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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Yongjie Ren <yongjie.ren@intel.com>,
	yanqiangjun@huawei.com, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	hanweidong@huawei.com, Xudong Hao <xudong.hao@intel.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	luonengjun@huawei.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	wangzhenguo@huawei.com, xiaowei.yang@huawei.com,
	arei.gonglei@huawei.com, YongweiX Xu <yongweix.xu@intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	SongtaoX Liu <songtaox.liu@intel.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [BUG 1747]Guest could't find bootable device with memory more than 3600M
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:25:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51B892D8.5040401@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51B89F9D02000078000DD9F4@nat28.tlf.novell.com>

On 12/06/13 15:19, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 12.06.13 at 16:02, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Il 12/06/2013 09:49, Jan Beulich ha scritto:
>>>> #3 should be possible or even the default (would need to check), but #4
>>>> is probably a bit harder to do.  Perhaps you can use a magic I/O port
>>>> for the xen platform PV driver, but if you can simply use two PCI
>>>> windows it would be much simpler because that's the same that TCG and
>>>> KVM already do.  The code is all there for you to lift in SeaBIOS.
>>> What is the connection here to the platform PV driver?
>> It's just a hook you already have for Xen-specific stuff in QEMU.
> Oh, sorry, I'm generally taking this term to refer to a Linux
> component.
>
>>>> Only Windows XP and older had problems with that because they didn't
>>>> like something in the ASL; but the 64-bit window is placed at the end of
>>>> RAM, so in principle any PAE-enabled OS can use it.
>>> At the end of _RAM_???
>> Why the question marks? :)
> Ah, so mean right after RAM. "At the end of RAM" reads like
> overlapping (and discarding) the tail of it.
>
>> If you have 4GB of RAM it will end at 0x140000000 (or something like
>> that) and that's where the 64-bit window starts.  Of course if you have
>> no RAM above the PCI hole, the 64-bit window will start at 0x100000000.
> So there's no provision whatsoever for extending the amount of RAM
> a guest may see? This is why I'd see any such allocation strategy to
> start at the end of physical address space, moving downwards.

Is there a mechanism to do memory hot-plug in qemu at the moment? If 
not, then there's no reason to put it anywhere else.

  -George

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-12 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-07  9:20 [BUG 1747]Guest could't find bootable device with memory more than 3600M Xu, YongweiX
2013-06-07 12:15 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-07 15:42   ` George Dunlap
2013-06-07 15:56     ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-08  7:27       ` Hao, Xudong
2013-06-10 11:49         ` George Dunlap
2013-06-11 17:26           ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-11 17:26             ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-12  7:25             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-06-12  7:25               ` Jan Beulich
2013-06-12  8:31               ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-06-12  8:31                 ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-12  9:02                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-06-12  9:02                   ` Jan Beulich
2013-06-12  9:22                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-06-12  9:22                     ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-12 10:07                     ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-06-12 10:07                       ` Jan Beulich
2013-06-12 11:23                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-06-12 11:23                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-12 11:56                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-06-12 11:56                           ` Jan Beulich
2013-06-12 11:59                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-06-12 11:59                             ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-12 10:05               ` [Qemu-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-06-12 10:05                 ` George Dunlap
2013-06-12 10:11                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-06-12 10:11                   ` Jan Beulich
2013-06-12 10:15                   ` [Qemu-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-06-12 10:15                     ` George Dunlap
2013-06-12 13:23                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-12 13:23                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-12 13:49                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-06-12 13:49                     ` Jan Beulich
2013-06-12 14:02                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-12 14:02                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-12 14:19                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-06-12 14:19                         ` Jan Beulich
2013-06-12 15:25                         ` George Dunlap [this message]
2013-06-12 15:25                           ` George Dunlap
2013-06-12 20:13                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-12 20:13                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-13 13:44                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-13 13:44                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-13 13:54                   ` [Qemu-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-06-13 13:54                     ` George Dunlap
2013-06-13 14:50                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-13 14:50                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-13 15:06                       ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-06-13 15:06                         ` Jan Beulich
2013-06-13 15:29                       ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-06-13 15:29                         ` George Dunlap
2013-06-13 16:13                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-13 16:13                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-13 15:34                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-06-13 15:34                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-13 16:55                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-13 16:55                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-13 17:22                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-06-13 17:22                             ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-14 10:53                             ` [Qemu-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-06-14 10:53                               ` George Dunlap
2013-06-14 11:34                               ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-06-14 11:34                                 ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-14 14:14                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-06-14 14:14                                   ` George Dunlap
2013-06-14 14:36                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-06-14 14:36                                     ` George Dunlap
2013-06-13 14:54                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-13 14:54                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-13 15:16                     ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-06-13 15:16                       ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-13 15:30                       ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-06-13 15:30                         ` George Dunlap
2013-06-13 15:36                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-06-13 15:36                           ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-13 15:40                           ` [Qemu-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-06-13 15:40                             ` George Dunlap
2013-06-13 15:42                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-06-13 15:42                               ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-13 15:40                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-13 15:40                         ` Stefano Stabellini

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