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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Richard Genoud <richard.genoud@gmail.com>,
	Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@atmel.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Bo Shen <voice.shen@atmel.com>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, patches@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/8] ASoC: atmel: machine driver for at91sam9x5-wm8731 boards
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:16:28 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F98CBC.6000302@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130730225845.GB9858@sirena.org.uk>

On 07/30/2013 04:58 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 03:29:17PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 07/30/2013 02:45 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> 
>>> You really shouldn't do this, it's not accomplishing much.
> 
>> What it accomplishes is not polluting the CODEC's binding with a
>> set of strings that must always be supported since DT is an ABI.
>> The strings are isolated into the specific audio complex binding,
>> which might possibly become deprecated and replaced with
>> something better and more generic.
> 
> You seem to be assuming that the strings are a bad thing.  I'm not
> sure that this is the case modulo the tooling issues...

I do tend to think that using strings is pretty evil...

> We could start adding the integers right now - something like:
> 
> The X CODEC has the following numbered input and output pins:
> 
> 1. HPOUTL 2. HPOUTR ...
> 
> (see datasheet for details), a header file is provided with 
> constants X_PIN_foo for convenience.
> 
> would work with either approach to identifying the pins or if
> we're being less verbose and just reference the header file for
> the definitions that becomes something like:
> 
> The X CODEC has input and output pins listed with numerical 
> identifiers in the form the X_PIN_foo defined in the X.h header 
> file where foo is the name of the pin.
> 
> (that's not good boilerplate wording but you get my drift) which
> still ends up defining a set of known strings for pins.
> 
> In fact now that I think about this why don't we just go ahead and
> do all this, starting by putting the numbers into the bindings for
> the CODECs since that's the simplest thing and doesn't involve
> writing code? I even have several boards on my desk that run DT
> ASoC...

I'm certainly fine with that compromise.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: swarren@wwwdotorg.org (Stephen Warren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v6 2/8] ASoC: atmel: machine driver for at91sam9x5-wm8731 boards
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:16:28 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F98CBC.6000302@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130730225845.GB9858@sirena.org.uk>

On 07/30/2013 04:58 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 03:29:17PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 07/30/2013 02:45 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> 
>>> You really shouldn't do this, it's not accomplishing much.
> 
>> What it accomplishes is not polluting the CODEC's binding with a
>> set of strings that must always be supported since DT is an ABI.
>> The strings are isolated into the specific audio complex binding,
>> which might possibly become deprecated and replaced with
>> something better and more generic.
> 
> You seem to be assuming that the strings are a bad thing.  I'm not
> sure that this is the case modulo the tooling issues...

I do tend to think that using strings is pretty evil...

> We could start adding the integers right now - something like:
> 
> The X CODEC has the following numbered input and output pins:
> 
> 1. HPOUTL 2. HPOUTR ...
> 
> (see datasheet for details), a header file is provided with 
> constants X_PIN_foo for convenience.
> 
> would work with either approach to identifying the pins or if
> we're being less verbose and just reference the header file for
> the definitions that becomes something like:
> 
> The X CODEC has input and output pins listed with numerical 
> identifiers in the form the X_PIN_foo defined in the X.h header 
> file where foo is the name of the pin.
> 
> (that's not good boilerplate wording but you get my drift) which
> still ends up defining a set of known strings for pins.
> 
> In fact now that I think about this why don't we just go ahead and
> do all this, starting by putting the numbers into the bindings for
> the CODECs since that's the simplest thing and doesn't involve
> writing code? I even have several boards on my desk that run DT
> ASoC...

I'm certainly fine with that compromise.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-31 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-30 10:32 [PATCH v6 0/8] Sound support for at91sam9x5-wm8731 based boards Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32 ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32 ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 1/8] ASoC: wm8731: add rates constraints Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32   ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32   ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 11:29   ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 11:29     ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 11:29     ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 2/8] ASoC: atmel: machine driver for at91sam9x5-wm8731 boards Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32   ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32   ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 17:45   ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 17:45     ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 20:45     ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 20:45       ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 20:45       ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 21:29       ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:29         ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 22:58         ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 22:58           ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 22:58           ` Mark Brown
2013-07-31 22:16           ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-07-31 22:16             ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01  9:53             ` Mark Brown
2013-08-01  9:53               ` Mark Brown
2013-08-01  9:53               ` Mark Brown
2013-08-06 17:11   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-06 17:11     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-06 17:11     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-07  8:20     ` Richard Genoud
2013-08-07  8:20       ` Richard Genoud
2013-08-07  8:20       ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 3/8] Documentation: DT: update atmel SSC with DMA binding Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32   ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32   ` Richard Genoud
2013-08-06 17:12   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-06 17:12     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-06 17:12     ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 4/8] ARM: AT91: DTS: sam9x5: add SSC DMA parameters Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32   ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32   ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 5/8] ARM: AT91: DTS: sam9x5ek: add WM8731 codec Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32   ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 6/8] ARM: AT91: DTS: sam9x5ek: enable SSC Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32   ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 7/8] ARM: AT91: DTS: sam9x5ek: add sound configuration Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32   ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 8/8] ASoC: sam9x5: get codec MCLK via device tree Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 10:32   ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 12:03   ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 12:03     ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 12:03     ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 12:15     ` Richard Genoud
2013-07-30 12:15       ` Richard Genoud
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-07-30  9:59 [PATCH v6 0/8] Sound support for at91sam9x5-wm8731 based boards Richard Genoud
2013-07-30  9:59 ` [PATCH v6 2/8] ASoC: atmel: machine driver for at91sam9x5-wm8731 boards Richard Genoud
2013-07-30  9:59   ` Richard Genoud

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