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From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: minyard@acm.org, Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.a@redhat.com>,
	seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] don't expose pvpanic device in the UI
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 13:23:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5200DCC5.2040603@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130806110035.GS8218@redhat.com>

Am 06.08.2013 13:00, schrieb Gleb Natapov:
> On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:35:10PM +0200, Andreas Färber wrote:
>> I wonder if IPMI might be such an alternative in the future, in which
>> case we should come up with some way to fully disable pvpanic device
>> creation. CC'ing Corey.
>>
> IPMI was considered, to complicated for what was needed.

Sorry? There's nothing wrong with going for pvpanic as a simple
implementation.

There have been IPMI patchsets on qemu-devel though, and SUSE will be
investigating adding some IPMI support too (not sure if identical to the
scope of those patchsets), whether IPMI is complicated or not. It's a
standard present on physical servers, facilitating unified management of
virtual and physical servers, and there's OpenIPMI as implementation.

My point was, there may be alternative, non-PV implementations to suck
such information out of a guest, IPMI being one example of a management
interface that exists for physical servers. So it's not necessarily
black-or-white, but choices similar to virtio vs. IDE vs. AHCI vs. SCSI.

HTE,
Andreas

-- 
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GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer; HRB 16746 AG Nürnberg

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-06 11:24 UTC|newest]

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2013-08-05 18:32             ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] don't expose pvpanic device in the UI Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06  7:34               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06  8:03                 ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-08-06  8:05                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06  8:14                     ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-08-06  8:38                       ` Gleb Natapov
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2013-08-06  8:33                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06  8:36                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06  8:45                         ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-06  9:15                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06  9:20                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 10:04                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 17:53                             ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-06  9:56                           ` Markus Armbruster
2013-08-06 10:11                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06  9:21                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06  9:32                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 10:19                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 10:44                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 11:03                                 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-06 11:16                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 11:48                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2013-08-06 12:03                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 12:09                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 12:45                                     ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-07  8:17                                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-06 11:54                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-08-06 12:08                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 10:35                             ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-06 11:00                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 11:23                                 ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2013-08-06 12:00                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 12:02                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-08-06 12:05                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 12:17                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 17:22                                     ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-06 12:08                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 12:19                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06  9:26                       ` Hu Tao
2013-08-06  9:29                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 10:13                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 10:14                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 10:23                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 10:28                                 ` Gleb Natapov

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