Could we introduce launchpad/gerrit for ceph

Could we introduce launchpad/gerrit for ceph

[Chen, Xiaoxi]

Hi,
　　Now it’s a bit hard for us to track the bugs, review the submits, and track the blueprints. We do have a bug tracking system, but most of the time it doesn’t connect with a github submit link. We have email review , pull requests, and also some internal mechanism inside inktank , we do need a single entrance for doing a submission. We have wiki to track blueprints, but it’s really confusing if you want to know the status of a BP, and also ,the discussion around that BP. Basically I think Openstack did a good job to track all these things, I do really suggest Ceph could also introduce Launchpad for this.
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Re: Could we introduce launchpad/gerrit for ceph

[Sage Weil]

> Hi,
> ??Now it?s a bit hard for us to track the bugs, review the submits, and 
> track the blueprints. We do have a bug tracking system, but most of the 
> time it doesn?t connect with a github submit link. We have email review 
> , pull requests, and also some internal mechanism inside inktank , we do 
> need a single entrance for doing a submission. We have wiki to track 
> blueprints, but it?s really confusing if you want to know the status of 
> a BP, and also ,the discussion around that BP. Basically I think 
> Openstack did a good job to track all these things, I do really suggest 
> Ceph could also introduce Launchpad for this.

We had a discussion during CDS about this.  The general output of that 
seems to be:

- gerrit workflow has a lot of good things
- gerrit treatment of individual commits vs branches is very unpleasant
- jenkins + gerrit integration is good
- we want build + smoke tests to run automatically prior to merge

- github pull requests are a decent alternative to gerrit if we
  - have build and smoke test output added as comments on teh request
    via the github apis
  - have jenkins running tests on pull requests via the plugin api

The bug tracker vs blueprint discussion also came up.  We are strongly 
considering a switch to jira (+ greenhopper etc) which has an integrated 
blueprint function and much better scrum stuff.

I haven't used launchpad much.  Is that a viable alternative?

sage

RE: Could we introduce launchpad/gerrit for ceph

[Chen, Xiaoxi]

I do think Launchpad is a mature alternative since there are big successful story such like Ubuntu and Openstack :)
OpenStack has already use it for years, and seems everyone happy with it, I am also happy with it, but I am not familiar with jira so I cannot do a comparison. 

Is there any estimate date or plan for when we will introduce these stuff?
-----Original Message-----
From: Sage Weil [mailto:sage@inktank.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 1:06 PM
To: Chen, Xiaoxi
Cc: ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Could we introduce launchpad/gerrit for ceph

> Hi,
> ??Now it?s a bit hard for us to track the bugs, review the submits, 
> and track the blueprints. We do have a bug tracking system, but most 
> of the time it doesn?t connect with a github submit link. We have 
> email review , pull requests, and also some internal mechanism inside 
> inktank , we do need a single entrance for doing a submission. We have 
> wiki to track blueprints, but it?s really confusing if you want to 
> know the status of a BP, and also ,the discussion around that BP. 
> Basically I think Openstack did a good job to track all these things, 
> I do really suggest Ceph could also introduce Launchpad for this.

We had a discussion during CDS about this.  The general output of that seems to be:

- gerrit workflow has a lot of good things
- gerrit treatment of individual commits vs branches is very unpleasant
- jenkins + gerrit integration is good
- we want build + smoke tests to run automatically prior to merge

- github pull requests are a decent alternative to gerrit if we
  - have build and smoke test output added as comments on teh request
    via the github apis
  - have jenkins running tests on pull requests via the plugin api

The bug tracker vs blueprint discussion also came up.  We are strongly considering a switch to jira (+ greenhopper etc) which has an integrated blueprint function and much better scrum stuff.

I haven't used launchpad much.  Is that a viable alternative?

sage

Re: Could we introduce launchpad/gerrit for ceph

[James Page]

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On 09/08/13 14:58, Chen, Xiaoxi wrote:
> I do think Launchpad is a mature alternative since there are big
> successful story such like Ubuntu and Openstack :)

Indeed

> OpenStack has already use it for years, and seems everyone happy
> with it, I am also happy with it, but I am not familiar with jira
> so I cannot do a comparison.

Bear in mind that the OpenStack project uses Launchpad for Blueprints,
Bug Tracking and Release Management and github+gerrit for code
management and reviews so its a bit of both worlds but it does seem to
work pretty well.

Monty's OpenStack CI team did some magic in gerrit to make comments in
reviews link back to bugs and blueprints.

HTH

James

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James Page
Ubuntu and Debian Developer
james.page@ubuntu.com
jamespage@debian.org
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