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* What is the target CPU "topology" of an SMP HVM machine?
@ 2013-08-14 19:23 Eric Shelton
  2013-08-14 20:06 ` Andrew Cooper
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eric Shelton @ 2013-08-14 19:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org, Keir Fraser, Jan Beulich

In doing some work to run OS X under Xen on my MacBook Air 2012 (Ivy
Bridge), I ran into some issues in Darwin's probing of what it refers
to as the CPU topology.  Although the Darwin kernel may make certain
assumptions about the platforms on which it is being run, it
nevertheless appears the various values Xen returns via CPUID and MSR
are not wholly consistent.  For example, when I configured the domain
to have only 1 vcpu, Darwin was still able to infer that the system
had multiple processors (maybe even the correct numbers of cores and
processors).

Adding the following to the domain config file got things to move past
a divide by zero resulting from the topology info reported by Xen:

cpuid = [ '4,3:eax=0001xxxxxxxxxx1111xxxxxxxxxxxxxx' ]

The '1111' portion is the key part, and was merely copied from the
bits natively reported by the CPU outside of Xen - a configuration
providing 4 logical processors.

So, seeing as this information is being closely interrogated, what is
the target virtual CPU topology?  How should this be reported via
CPUID and MSR?  Darwin appears to be trying to determine or take into
account things such as a number of packages, dies per package, cores
per pie & package, and threads/logical CPUs per core & package; the
degrees of sharing of caches by CPUs at various cache levels, and the
presence of hyperthreading.

For example,  Darwin's osfmk/i386/cpu_threads.c (thankfully open
source), will report the following - I believe just based on the CPUID
and MSR values:

    TOPO_DBG("\nCache Topology Parameters:\n");
    TOPO_DBG("\tLLC Depth:           %d\n", topoParms.LLCDepth);
    TOPO_DBG("\tCores Sharing LLC:   %d\n", topoParms.nCoresSharingLLC);
    TOPO_DBG("\tThreads Sharing LLC: %d\n", topoParms.nLCPUsSharingLLC);
    TOPO_DBG("\tmax Sharing of LLC:  %d\n", topoParms.maxSharingLLC);

    TOPO_DBG("\nLogical Topology Parameters:\n");
    TOPO_DBG("\tThreads per Core:  %d\n", topoParms.nLThreadsPerCore);
    TOPO_DBG("\tCores per Die:     %d\n", topoParms.nLCoresPerDie);
    TOPO_DBG("\tThreads per Die:   %d\n", topoParms.nLThreadsPerDie);
    TOPO_DBG("\tDies per Package:  %d\n", topoParms.nLDiesPerPackage);
    TOPO_DBG("\tCores per Package: %d\n", topoParms.nLCoresPerPackage);
    TOPO_DBG("\tThreads per Package: %d\n", topoParms.nLThreadsPerPackage);

    TOPO_DBG("\nPhysical Topology Parameters:\n");
    TOPO_DBG("\tThreads per Core: %d\n", topoParms.nPThreadsPerCore);
    TOPO_DBG("\tCores per Die:     %d\n", topoParms.nPCoresPerDie);
    TOPO_DBG("\tThreads per Die:   %d\n", topoParms.nPThreadsPerDie);
    TOPO_DBG("\tDies per Package:  %d\n", topoParms.nPDiesPerPackage);
    TOPO_DBG("\tCores per Package: %d\n", topoParms.nPCoresPerPackage);
    TOPO_DBG("\tThreads per Package: %d\n", topoParms.nPThreadsPerPackage);

In addition to CPUID and MSR, does any of this get reflected in the
ACPI tables?  Also, is there a presumed relationship between the
number of dies or cores and the number of HPET comparators to be
concerned with?

Finally, included in all of this is the use of an undocumented MSR
0x35, which appears to be available on at least Nehalem on up, which
reports the number of cores and processors, and reports this
information slightly differently between some of the Intel
architectures.  Would it be OK to trap & emulate this behavior where
CPUID is reporting a model that implements MSR 0x35?  Would it be
better to be able to override MSR values in the domain config file,
much as with CPUID?

Thanks,
Eric

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