From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, lars@metafoo.de, festevam@gmail.com,
s.hauer@pengutronix.de, Nicolin Chen <b42378@freescale.com>,
timur@tabi.org, rob.herring@calxeda.com, tomasz.figa@gmail.com,
p.zabel@pengutronix.de, R65777@freescale.com,
shawn.guo@linaro.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] ASoC: fsl: Add S/PDIF machine driver
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:48:46 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52138FDE.3080007@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130820001858.GF30073@sirena.org.uk>
On 08/19/2013 06:18 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 03:39:26PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 08/19/2013 06:08 AM, Nicolin Chen wrote:
>>> This patch implements a device-tree-only machine driver for
>>> Freescale i.MX series Soc. It works with
>>> spdif_transmitter/spdif_receiver and fsl_spdif.c drivers.
>>
>>> diff --git
>>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/sound/imx-audio-spdif.txt
>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/sound/imx-audio-spdif.txt
>
>>> +Optional properties:
>
>>> + - spdif-transmitter : The phandle of the spdif-transmitter
>>> dummy codec + - spdif-receiver : The phandle of the
>>> spdif-receiver dummy codec
>
>>> +* Note: At least one of these two properties should be set in
>>> the DT binding.
>
>> Those object truly don't exist in HW and only exist due to
>> internal details of Linux's ASoC subsystem.
>
> They will physically exist if they're usefully present on the board
> (in the sense that they're there and can be pointed at) - there
> will be either a TOSLINK optical connector or (less commonly) an
> electrical connector breaking the signal out to go elsewhere though
> they don't have any interaction with software usually which is more
> what you mean here.
Sure, the S/PDIF signal is connected to something, but it is not a
"dummy CODEC"; a "dummy CODEC" is purely something internal to ASoC
and absolutely nothing to do with HW.
>> Or, to map the properties more directly to HW, perhaps name the
>> property "spdif-tx-jack-exists", or even "spdif-tx-jack" and make
>> it a phandle to a node that represents the actual S/PDIF
>> connector?
>
> S/PDIF is also sometimes used as an interconnect between devices -
> some CODECs have S/PDIF I/O (more normally used as an external
> connector on the box). This is most frequently seen as a way to
> plumb HDMI in since some HDMI devices seem to provide this as a
> legacy interconnect, though it can get used just for regular CODECs
> as well. Using this machine driver would probably be a bit of an
> abuse for some applications, though with things like the HDMI one
> the goal of the hardware is to be dropped into a driver like this
> so perhaps it makes sense and is useful anyway.
>
> Equally well it'd be good to get this stuff actually merged, it
> seems to have been surprisingly time consuming thus far...
That's not a good argument for an incorrect binding.
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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <b42378@freescale.com>,
lars@metafoo.de, p.zabel@pengutronix.de, s.hauer@pengutronix.de,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, timur@tabi.org,
rob.herring@calxeda.com, shawn.guo@linaro.org,
festevam@gmail.com, tomasz.figa@gmail.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
R65777@freescale.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] ASoC: fsl: Add S/PDIF machine driver
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:48:46 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52138FDE.3080007@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130820001858.GF30073@sirena.org.uk>
On 08/19/2013 06:18 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 03:39:26PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 08/19/2013 06:08 AM, Nicolin Chen wrote:
>>> This patch implements a device-tree-only machine driver for
>>> Freescale i.MX series Soc. It works with
>>> spdif_transmitter/spdif_receiver and fsl_spdif.c drivers.
>>
>>> diff --git
>>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/sound/imx-audio-spdif.txt
>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/sound/imx-audio-spdif.txt
>
>>> +Optional properties:
>
>>> + - spdif-transmitter : The phandle of the spdif-transmitter
>>> dummy codec + - spdif-receiver : The phandle of the
>>> spdif-receiver dummy codec
>
>>> +* Note: At least one of these two properties should be set in
>>> the DT binding.
>
>> Those object truly don't exist in HW and only exist due to
>> internal details of Linux's ASoC subsystem.
>
> They will physically exist if they're usefully present on the board
> (in the sense that they're there and can be pointed at) - there
> will be either a TOSLINK optical connector or (less commonly) an
> electrical connector breaking the signal out to go elsewhere though
> they don't have any interaction with software usually which is more
> what you mean here.
Sure, the S/PDIF signal is connected to something, but it is not a
"dummy CODEC"; a "dummy CODEC" is purely something internal to ASoC
and absolutely nothing to do with HW.
>> Or, to map the properties more directly to HW, perhaps name the
>> property "spdif-tx-jack-exists", or even "spdif-tx-jack" and make
>> it a phandle to a node that represents the actual S/PDIF
>> connector?
>
> S/PDIF is also sometimes used as an interconnect between devices -
> some CODECs have S/PDIF I/O (more normally used as an external
> connector on the box). This is most frequently seen as a way to
> plumb HDMI in since some HDMI devices seem to provide this as a
> legacy interconnect, though it can get used just for regular CODECs
> as well. Using this machine driver would probably be a bit of an
> abuse for some applications, though with things like the HDMI one
> the goal of the hardware is to be dropped into a driver like this
> so perhaps it makes sense and is useful anyway.
>
> Equally well it'd be good to get this stuff actually merged, it
> seems to have been surprisingly time consuming thus far...
That's not a good argument for an incorrect binding.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-20 15:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-19 12:08 [PATCH v8 0/2] Add freescale S/PDIF CPU DAI and machine drivers Nicolin Chen
2013-08-19 12:08 ` Nicolin Chen
2013-08-19 12:08 ` Nicolin Chen
2013-08-19 12:08 ` [PATCH v8 1/2] ASoC: fsl: Add S/PDIF CPU DAI driver Nicolin Chen
2013-08-19 12:08 ` Nicolin Chen
2013-08-19 12:08 ` Nicolin Chen
2013-08-19 12:34 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-08-19 12:34 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-08-20 2:21 ` Nicolin Chen
2013-08-20 2:21 ` Nicolin Chen
2013-08-19 21:35 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-19 21:35 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-20 2:28 ` Nicolin Chen
2013-08-20 2:28 ` Nicolin Chen
2013-08-20 15:49 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-20 15:49 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-19 12:08 ` [PATCH v8 2/2] ASoC: fsl: Add S/PDIF machine driver Nicolin Chen
2013-08-19 12:08 ` Nicolin Chen
2013-08-19 12:08 ` Nicolin Chen
2013-08-19 21:39 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-19 21:39 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-20 0:18 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-20 0:18 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-20 0:18 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-20 15:48 ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-08-20 15:48 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-20 19:07 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-20 19:07 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-20 19:07 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-20 19:53 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-20 19:53 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-20 22:28 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-20 22:28 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-20 22:28 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-21 2:18 ` Nicolin Chen
2013-08-21 2:18 ` [alsa-devel] " Nicolin Chen
2013-08-21 2:18 ` Nicolin Chen
2013-08-21 16:08 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-21 16:08 ` [alsa-devel] " Stephen Warren
2013-08-21 16:08 ` Stephen Warren
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