From: Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>
To: "Oliver Hartkopp" <socketcan@hartkopp.net>,
"Heinz-Jürgen Oertel" <hj.oertel@t-online.de>
Cc: linux-can@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: adding can4linux to drivers/char
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:57:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <523DFA0E.9010209@grandegger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <523D643F.6040703@hartkopp.net>
On 09/21/2013 11:17 AM, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
> On 21.09.2013 01:03, Heinz-Jürgen Oertel wrote:
>> Hello Linux CAN community,
>>
>> long before SocketCAN, which now is part of the Linux kernel drivers, can4linux was available as the CAN device driver for Linux.
>>
>> I now like to add it to the kernel source tree as well. What to you think about it. And how should I start and proceed?
>> I would like to start with the Xilinx XCANPS as can be found on the Zynq processor. Maybe also with one PCI board, the CPC-PCI (EMS Wünsche).
>>
>> What is the best way? My current development for the PC is based on OpenSuse with kernel 3.7.10. for Xilinx it is kernel 3.10. Can I send a patch against 3.7 and to whom can I send it?
>
> Hello Heinz,
>
> merging the two different approaches makes sense in that way that the
> different users of the can4linux character device API should be able to take
> part of the Linux mainline improvements.
>
> The question is how to make it a win-win for both sides without doing double work:
>
> 1. SocketCAN & can4linux users should be able to use a common CAN driver pool
> 2. The netdev and the chardev should be able to run simultaneously
> 3. The chardev API preferably should support all chardev flavours
>
> Indeed i did some evaluations about the migration from the chardev API of
> can4linux to SocketCAN in my thesis on page 156ff
>
> (unfortunately in german)
> A.8 Migration existierender CAN Anwendungen
>
> You might get the thesis from here:
> http://edoc.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/servlets/DocumentServlet?id=9738
>
> In chapter 8.2 there's a concept describing the co-existence of a character
> device emulator and how to connect it to the existing Linux CAN
> infrastructure. A screenshot from that picture is attached to this mail.
>
> The advantages of this approach:
>
> - only one hardware driver pool to maintain (e.g. add Xilinx as netdev driver)
> - SocketCAN and can4linux apps can run simultaneously on the same CAN hardware
> - SocketCAN protocols CAN_BCM and the CAN gateway CAN_GW are still operational
> - a compact and easy maintainable chardev API adapter emulation
> - can4linux API users get access to all existing CAN netdev drivers (USB, ...)
>
> A real good thing would be if the chardev emulation adapter would support
> different chardev flavours like can4linux, PEAK, LinCAN, ...
*No*, please not, at least not as part of the Linux kernel. People
should port their applications to Linux-CAN and then they will
automatically profit from further improvements.
Wolfgang.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-21 19:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-20 23:03 adding can4linux to drivers/char Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
2013-09-21 9:17 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2013-09-21 19:57 ` Wolfgang Grandegger [this message]
2013-09-21 13:38 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2013-09-21 16:37 ` Sebastian Haas
2013-09-21 17:09 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2013-09-21 18:17 ` Oliver Hartkopp
[not found] ` <CADGMhsXaJOpbdCgEAoOguZWX2rS_P0a-H5UDZwUWiHD4Nj=upw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-22 10:40 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2013-09-22 11:01 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2013-09-23 13:46 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2013-09-21 19:55 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2013-09-29 16:28 ` Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
2013-09-29 17:44 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2013-09-29 17:45 ` Sebastian Haas
2013-09-29 18:44 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2013-09-29 19:23 ` Max S.
2013-09-29 19:17 ` Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
2013-09-29 19:43 ` autobaud detection (was: Re: adding can4linux to drivers/char) Marc Kleine-Budde
2013-09-30 7:30 ` adding can4linux to drivers/char Sebastian Haas
2013-09-30 10:20 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2013-09-29 19:23 ` Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
2013-09-30 9:35 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2013-10-01 20:20 ` AW: " May, Stefan
2013-10-02 7:49 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2013-10-02 8:43 ` Linux CAN CUSE hacks, SocketCAN and RT Was: " Pavel Pisa
2013-10-02 9:47 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2013-09-29 19:41 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2013-09-30 7:40 ` Sebastian Haas
2013-09-30 8:21 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
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