From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] xl: neuter vcpu-set --ignore-host.
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 17:01:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52445A56.6060505@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1380210460.29483.134.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>
On 26/09/13 16:47, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 11:28 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>>> - The user can already boot a massively overcommitted guest by
>>>> having a large 'vcpus=' value in the guest config and we allow
>>>> that.
>>> IMHO this is an xl bug, I'd be happy to see a patch to fix this and
>>> require and override here too.
>> I actually think that doing vCPU overcommit is an OK process. If you go
>> down the path of 'don't do this b/c it can cause performance degredation'
>> you might end up with tons of things that we should be turning off:
>> - don't use file but use phy for block.
>> - if you have 40GB SR-IOV, use that instead of vif.
>> - booting PV? You should be booting it in HVM mode on latest machines.
>> - etc.
> Those are all legitimate choices for a user to make.
>
> Overcommitting VCPUs is not.
Depends how the overcommitting happens. What about:
* User creating N VMs which are individually undercomitted but has the
same effect as creating 1 VM which is stupidly overcommitted.
* Power management decides to shut down some of the PCPUs because it can
service all the current VCPUs from some somewhat idle domains on fewer PCPUs
While I agree that creating a single VM which is overcommitted in terms
of VCPUs is either a user error or power-user, that alone is not a
justification for it being impossible/very hard to do.
My two cents.
~Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-26 16:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-25 20:40 [RFC] Make xl vcpu-set work in overcommit and with PV guests. (v2) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-25 20:40 ` [PATCH 1/2] xl: neuter vcpu-set --ignore-host Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-26 7:23 ` Dario Faggioli
2013-09-26 12:45 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-26 9:06 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-26 12:48 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-26 16:25 ` George Dunlap
2013-09-27 1:44 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-26 15:28 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-26 15:47 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-26 16:01 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2013-09-26 16:05 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-27 1:52 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-27 8:41 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-30 18:40 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-25 20:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] xl/vcpuset: Make it work for PV guests Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-26 9:10 ` Ian Campbell
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