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From: Stanimir Varbanov <svarbanov@mm-sol.com>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.hengli.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Add support for Qualcomm's PRNG
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 17:46:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52556C4E.9000604@mm-sol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131004181005.GA7022@thunk.org>

Hi Ted,

On 10/04/2013 09:10 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 07:23:50PM +0300, Stanimir Varbanov wrote:
>> I guess that it should follow NIST 800-90 recommendation, but I'm not
>> aware what DRBG mechanism is used.
>>
>> To be honest I really don't know the hardware implementation details. I
>> put PRNG abbreviation in the cover letter just because I saw that
>> defines for register offsets are prefixed with PRNG_*. I could rename
>> all occurrences of PRNG to RNG. Is that will be enough to avoid confusions?
> 
> If that's what the Qualcomm documentation uses, maybe we should stick
> with it, and add some explanatory comments.  Is there any
> documentation for this block that is public that you can either send
> me a a pointer to?

No, there is no public documentation for the block. Here is the driver
documentation which I used as a base [1].

My guess was that - if it is PRNG (got from hardware description link
above) than according to wiki [2] it is also known as a deterministic
random bit generator (DRBG). The recommendation for RNG using DRBG is
NIST 800-90.

Of course I could be wrong, so I can add a comment that this is just a
guess and we shouldn't over-reliance on this.

regards,
Stan

[1]
https://www.codeaurora.org/cgit/quic/la/kernel/msm/tree/Documentation/arm/msm/msm_rng-driver.txt?h=jb_3.2.1

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generator

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-09 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-03 14:52 [PATCH 0/2] Add support for Qualcomm's PRNG Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-03 14:52 ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-03 14:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] ARM: DT: msm: Add Qualcomm's PRNG driver binding document Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-03 14:52   ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-03 14:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] hwrng: msm: Add PRNG support for MSM SoC's Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-03 14:52   ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-03 19:25   ` Stephen Boyd
2013-10-03 19:25     ` Stephen Boyd
2013-10-04 16:31     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-04 16:31       ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-04 16:37       ` Stephen Boyd
2013-10-04 16:37         ` Stephen Boyd
2013-10-09  8:23         ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-09  8:23           ` Stanimir Varbanov
     [not found] ` <1380811955-18085-1-git-send-email-svarbanov-NEYub+7Iv8PQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-03 16:51   ` [PATCH 0/2] Add support for Qualcomm's PRNG Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-03 16:51     ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]     ` <20131003165130.GA11974-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-04 16:23       ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-04 16:23         ` Stanimir Varbanov
     [not found]         ` <524EEB96.6040707-NEYub+7Iv8PQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-04 18:10           ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-04 18:10             ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-09 14:46             ` Stanimir Varbanov [this message]
2013-10-09 15:07               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-09 16:03                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-09 16:24                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-10  7:46                     ` rngd (was: [PATCH 0/2] Add support for Qualcomm's PRNG) Clemens Ladisch
2013-10-10 15:08                       ` rngd H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-10 19:48                         ` rngd Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-10 10:41                 ` [PATCH 0/2] Add support for Qualcomm's PRNG Paul Mackerras
2013-10-10 15:08                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-10 13:47                 ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-11  7:05                   ` Clemens Ladisch

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