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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
To: Stanimir Varbanov <svarbanov-NEYub+7Iv8PQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>,
	Ian Campbell
	<ijc+devicetree-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm-VDJrAJ4Gl5ZBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Herbert Xu
	<herbert-F6s6mLieUQo7FNHlEwC/lvQIK84fMopw@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Rob Landley <rob-VoJi6FS/r0vR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman
	<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-msm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Add support for Qualcomm's PRNG
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 12:51:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131003165130.GA11974@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1380811955-18085-1-git-send-email-svarbanov-NEYub+7Iv8PQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 05:52:33PM +0300, Stanimir Varbanov wrote:
> This patch set adds hardware RNG driver wich is used to control the
> Qualcomm's PRNG hardware block.
> The first patch document the DT bindings needed to sucessfuly probe
> the driver and the second patch adds the driver.

Is this really a PRNG (pseudo-random number generator)?  What are the
guarantees which Qualcomm is providing for the PRNG?  If it's really a
PRNG such as AES(i++, NSA_KEY), then kudo to Qualcomm for being
honest.

If it is supposed to be (or at least claimed to be) a secure random
number generator ala RDRAND suitable for use in cryptographic
applications, calling it a PRNG is going to be a bit misleading.

Cheers,

						- Ted
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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Stanimir Varbanov <svarbanov@mm-sol.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.hengli.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Add support for Qualcomm's PRNG
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 12:51:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131003165130.GA11974@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1380811955-18085-1-git-send-email-svarbanov@mm-sol.com>

On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 05:52:33PM +0300, Stanimir Varbanov wrote:
> This patch set adds hardware RNG driver wich is used to control the
> Qualcomm's PRNG hardware block.
> The first patch document the DT bindings needed to sucessfuly probe
> the driver and the second patch adds the driver.

Is this really a PRNG (pseudo-random number generator)?  What are the
guarantees which Qualcomm is providing for the PRNG?  If it's really a
PRNG such as AES(i++, NSA_KEY), then kudo to Qualcomm for being
honest.

If it is supposed to be (or at least claimed to be) a secure random
number generator ala RDRAND suitable for use in cryptographic
applications, calling it a PRNG is going to be a bit misleading.

Cheers,

						- Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-03 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-03 14:52 [PATCH 0/2] Add support for Qualcomm's PRNG Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-03 14:52 ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-03 14:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] ARM: DT: msm: Add Qualcomm's PRNG driver binding document Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-03 14:52   ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-03 14:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] hwrng: msm: Add PRNG support for MSM SoC's Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-03 14:52   ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-03 19:25   ` Stephen Boyd
2013-10-03 19:25     ` Stephen Boyd
2013-10-04 16:31     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-04 16:31       ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-04 16:37       ` Stephen Boyd
2013-10-04 16:37         ` Stephen Boyd
2013-10-09  8:23         ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-09  8:23           ` Stanimir Varbanov
     [not found] ` <1380811955-18085-1-git-send-email-svarbanov-NEYub+7Iv8PQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-03 16:51   ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2013-10-03 16:51     ` [PATCH 0/2] Add support for Qualcomm's PRNG Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]     ` <20131003165130.GA11974-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-04 16:23       ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-04 16:23         ` Stanimir Varbanov
     [not found]         ` <524EEB96.6040707-NEYub+7Iv8PQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-04 18:10           ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-04 18:10             ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-09 14:46             ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-09 15:07               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-09 16:03                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-09 16:24                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-10  7:46                     ` rngd (was: [PATCH 0/2] Add support for Qualcomm's PRNG) Clemens Ladisch
2013-10-10 15:08                       ` rngd H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-10 19:48                         ` rngd Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-10 10:41                 ` [PATCH 0/2] Add support for Qualcomm's PRNG Paul Mackerras
2013-10-10 15:08                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-10 13:47                 ` Stanimir Varbanov
2013-10-11  7:05                   ` Clemens Ladisch

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