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From: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] ACPI / video: Do not register backlight if win8 and native interface exists
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:09:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52574FDA.20201@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2800253.nfx2dehBQN@vostro.rjw.lan>

On 10/10/2013 08:59 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, October 10, 2013 09:02:55 AM Aaron Lu wrote:
>> On 10/10/2013 08:29 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, October 08, 2013 02:40:00 PM Aaron Lu wrote:
>>>> According to Matthew Garrett, "Windows 8 leaves backlight control up
>>>> to individual graphics drivers rather than making ACPI calls itself.
>>>> There's plenty of evidence to suggest that the Intel driver for
>>>> Windows [8] doesn't use the ACPI interface, including the fact that
>>>> it's broken on a bunch of machines when the OS claims to support
>>>> Windows 8.  The simplest thing to do appears to be to disable the
>>>> ACPI backlight interface on these systems".
>>>>
>>>> So for Win8 systems, if there is native backlight control interface
>>>> registered by GPU driver, ACPI video will not register its own. For
>>>> users who prefer to keep ACPI video's backlight interface, the existing
>>>> kernel cmdline option acpi_backlight=video can be used.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
>>>> Tested-by: Igor Gnatenko <i.gnatenko.brain@gmail.com>
>>>> Tested-by: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>
>>>> Tested-by: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  drivers/acpi/internal.h     |  5 ++---
>>>>  drivers/acpi/video.c        | 10 +++++-----
>>>>  drivers/acpi/video_detect.c | 14 ++++++++++++--
>>>>  3 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/internal.h b/drivers/acpi/internal.h
>>>> index 20f4233..453ae8d 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/acpi/internal.h
>>>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/internal.h
>>>> @@ -169,9 +169,8 @@ int acpi_create_platform_device(struct acpi_device *adev,
>>>>  					Video
>>>>    -------------------------------------------------------------------------- */
>>>>  #if defined(CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO) || defined(CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO_MODULE)
>>>> -bool acpi_video_backlight_quirks(void);
>>>> -#else
>>>> -static inline bool acpi_video_backlight_quirks(void) { return false; }
>>>> +bool acpi_osi_is_win8(void);
>>>> +bool acpi_video_verify_backlight_support(void);
>>>>  #endif
>>>>  
>>>>  #endif /* _ACPI_INTERNAL_H_ */
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/video.c b/drivers/acpi/video.c
>>>> index 3bd1eaa..343db59 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/acpi/video.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/video.c
>>>> @@ -1256,8 +1256,8 @@ acpi_video_switch_brightness(struct acpi_video_device *device, int event)
>>>>  	unsigned long long level_current, level_next;
>>>>  	int result = -EINVAL;
>>>>  
>>>> -	/* no warning message if acpi_backlight=vendor is used */
>>>> -	if (!acpi_video_backlight_support())
>>>> +	/* no warning message if acpi_backlight=vendor or a quirk is used */
>>>> +	if (!acpi_video_verify_backlight_support())
>>>>  		return 0;
>>>>  
>>>>  	if (!device->brightness)
>>>> @@ -1386,13 +1386,13 @@ acpi_video_bus_get_devices(struct acpi_video_bus *video,
>>>>  static int acpi_video_bus_start_devices(struct acpi_video_bus *video)
>>>>  {
>>>>  	return acpi_video_bus_DOS(video, 0,
>>>> -				  acpi_video_backlight_quirks() ? 1 : 0);
>>>> +				  acpi_osi_is_win8() ? 1 : 0);
>>>>  }
>>>>  
>>>>  static int acpi_video_bus_stop_devices(struct acpi_video_bus *video)
>>>>  {
>>>>  	return acpi_video_bus_DOS(video, 0,
>>>> -				  acpi_video_backlight_quirks() ? 0 : 1);
>>>> +				  acpi_osi_is_win8() ? 0 : 1);
>>>>  }
>>>>  
>>>>  static void acpi_video_bus_notify(struct acpi_device *device, u32 event)
>>>> @@ -1558,7 +1558,7 @@ acpi_video_bus_match(acpi_handle handle, u32 level, void *context,
>>>>  
>>>>  static void acpi_video_dev_register_backlight(struct acpi_video_device *device)
>>>>  {
>>>> -	if (acpi_video_backlight_support()) {
>>>> +	if (acpi_video_verify_backlight_support()) {
>>>>  		struct backlight_properties props;
>>>>  		struct pci_dev *pdev;
>>>>  		acpi_handle acpi_parent;
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/video_detect.c b/drivers/acpi/video_detect.c
>>>> index 940edbf..23d7d26 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/acpi/video_detect.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/video_detect.c
>>>> @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@
>>>>  #include <linux/acpi.h>
>>>>  #include <linux/dmi.h>
>>>>  #include <linux/pci.h>
>>>> +#include <linux/backlight.h>
>>>>  
>>>>  #include "internal.h"
>>>>  
>>>> @@ -233,11 +234,11 @@ static void acpi_video_caps_check(void)
>>>>  		acpi_video_get_capabilities(NULL);
>>>>  }
>>>>  
>>>> -bool acpi_video_backlight_quirks(void)
>>>> +bool acpi_osi_is_win8(void)
>>>>  {
>>>>  	return acpi_gbl_osi_data >= ACPI_OSI_WIN_8;
>>>>  }
>>>> -EXPORT_SYMBOL(acpi_video_backlight_quirks);
>>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(acpi_osi_is_win8);
>>>>  
>>>>  /* Promote the vendor interface instead of the generic video module.
>>>>   * This function allow DMI blacklists to be implemented by externals
>>>> @@ -283,6 +284,15 @@ int acpi_video_backlight_support(void)
>>>>  }
>>>>  EXPORT_SYMBOL(acpi_video_backlight_support);
>>>>  
>>>> +bool acpi_video_verify_backlight_support(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	if (!(acpi_video_support & ACPI_VIDEO_BACKLIGHT_FORCE_VIDEO) &&
>>>> +	    acpi_osi_is_win8() && backlight_device_registered(BACKLIGHT_RAW))
>>>> +		return false;
>>>
>>> If I'm not mistaken, this will introduce a regression for the people who have
>>> problems with the native i915 backlight on Win8-compatible systems.  I'd prefer
>>> to avoid that at this point.
>>>
>>
>> OK, I see.
>>
>> Then I'm afraid a new kernel command line option is needed, something
>> like video.use_native_backlight and set it to false by default, then
>> for people who need to avoid the ACPI video backlight interface, they
>> can add video.use_native_backlight=true to kernel cmdline.
>>
>> One thing I need to mention is, with the new cmdline option, users will
>> need to manually add a kernel cmdline option to make backlight work on
>> their systems, while they can already make backlight work by modifying
>> xorg.conf to specify using intel_backlight interface, so it doesn't seem
>> this patchset will be very useful then...
> 
> Except if we add a (black)list of systems where that option will be 'true'
> by default instead of the _OSI blacklist we have today.
> 
> Also we can switch the default during development cycles to get an idea
> about how many systems are affected and maybe we can find a way to fix them,
> in which case we can simply drop the option.

Sounds good, I'll update in next revision, thanks for the suggestion!

-Aaron

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From: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Matthew Garrett" <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>,
	"Seth Forshee" <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
	"Lee Chun-Yi" <joeyli.kernel@gmail.com>,
	"Richard Purdie" <rpurdie@rpsys.net>,
	"Igor Gnatenko" <i.gnatenko.brain@gmail.com>,
	"Yves-Alexis Perez" <corsac@debian.org>,
	"Felipe Contreras" <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"Ben Jencks" <ben@bjencks.net>,
	"Steven Newbury" <steve@snewbury.org.uk>,
	"James Hogan" <james@albanarts.com>,
	"Kamal Mostafa" <kamal@canonical.com>,
	"Joerg Platte" <jplatte@naasa.net>,
	"Kalle Valo" <kvalo@adurom.com>,
	"Martin Steigerwald" <Martin@lichtvoll.de>,
	"Jörg Otte" <jrg.otte@gmail.com>,
	"Mike Galbraith" <bitbucket@online.de>,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
	"Mika Westerberg" <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	"Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] ACPI / video: Do not register backlight if win8 and native interface exists
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:09:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52574FDA.20201@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2800253.nfx2dehBQN@vostro.rjw.lan>

On 10/10/2013 08:59 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, October 10, 2013 09:02:55 AM Aaron Lu wrote:
>> On 10/10/2013 08:29 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, October 08, 2013 02:40:00 PM Aaron Lu wrote:
>>>> According to Matthew Garrett, "Windows 8 leaves backlight control up
>>>> to individual graphics drivers rather than making ACPI calls itself.
>>>> There's plenty of evidence to suggest that the Intel driver for
>>>> Windows [8] doesn't use the ACPI interface, including the fact that
>>>> it's broken on a bunch of machines when the OS claims to support
>>>> Windows 8.  The simplest thing to do appears to be to disable the
>>>> ACPI backlight interface on these systems".
>>>>
>>>> So for Win8 systems, if there is native backlight control interface
>>>> registered by GPU driver, ACPI video will not register its own. For
>>>> users who prefer to keep ACPI video's backlight interface, the existing
>>>> kernel cmdline option acpi_backlight=video can be used.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
>>>> Tested-by: Igor Gnatenko <i.gnatenko.brain@gmail.com>
>>>> Tested-by: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>
>>>> Tested-by: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  drivers/acpi/internal.h     |  5 ++---
>>>>  drivers/acpi/video.c        | 10 +++++-----
>>>>  drivers/acpi/video_detect.c | 14 ++++++++++++--
>>>>  3 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/internal.h b/drivers/acpi/internal.h
>>>> index 20f4233..453ae8d 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/acpi/internal.h
>>>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/internal.h
>>>> @@ -169,9 +169,8 @@ int acpi_create_platform_device(struct acpi_device *adev,
>>>>  					Video
>>>>    -------------------------------------------------------------------------- */
>>>>  #if defined(CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO) || defined(CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO_MODULE)
>>>> -bool acpi_video_backlight_quirks(void);
>>>> -#else
>>>> -static inline bool acpi_video_backlight_quirks(void) { return false; }
>>>> +bool acpi_osi_is_win8(void);
>>>> +bool acpi_video_verify_backlight_support(void);
>>>>  #endif
>>>>  
>>>>  #endif /* _ACPI_INTERNAL_H_ */
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/video.c b/drivers/acpi/video.c
>>>> index 3bd1eaa..343db59 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/acpi/video.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/video.c
>>>> @@ -1256,8 +1256,8 @@ acpi_video_switch_brightness(struct acpi_video_device *device, int event)
>>>>  	unsigned long long level_current, level_next;
>>>>  	int result = -EINVAL;
>>>>  
>>>> -	/* no warning message if acpi_backlight=vendor is used */
>>>> -	if (!acpi_video_backlight_support())
>>>> +	/* no warning message if acpi_backlight=vendor or a quirk is used */
>>>> +	if (!acpi_video_verify_backlight_support())
>>>>  		return 0;
>>>>  
>>>>  	if (!device->brightness)
>>>> @@ -1386,13 +1386,13 @@ acpi_video_bus_get_devices(struct acpi_video_bus *video,
>>>>  static int acpi_video_bus_start_devices(struct acpi_video_bus *video)
>>>>  {
>>>>  	return acpi_video_bus_DOS(video, 0,
>>>> -				  acpi_video_backlight_quirks() ? 1 : 0);
>>>> +				  acpi_osi_is_win8() ? 1 : 0);
>>>>  }
>>>>  
>>>>  static int acpi_video_bus_stop_devices(struct acpi_video_bus *video)
>>>>  {
>>>>  	return acpi_video_bus_DOS(video, 0,
>>>> -				  acpi_video_backlight_quirks() ? 0 : 1);
>>>> +				  acpi_osi_is_win8() ? 0 : 1);
>>>>  }
>>>>  
>>>>  static void acpi_video_bus_notify(struct acpi_device *device, u32 event)
>>>> @@ -1558,7 +1558,7 @@ acpi_video_bus_match(acpi_handle handle, u32 level, void *context,
>>>>  
>>>>  static void acpi_video_dev_register_backlight(struct acpi_video_device *device)
>>>>  {
>>>> -	if (acpi_video_backlight_support()) {
>>>> +	if (acpi_video_verify_backlight_support()) {
>>>>  		struct backlight_properties props;
>>>>  		struct pci_dev *pdev;
>>>>  		acpi_handle acpi_parent;
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/video_detect.c b/drivers/acpi/video_detect.c
>>>> index 940edbf..23d7d26 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/acpi/video_detect.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/video_detect.c
>>>> @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@
>>>>  #include <linux/acpi.h>
>>>>  #include <linux/dmi.h>
>>>>  #include <linux/pci.h>
>>>> +#include <linux/backlight.h>
>>>>  
>>>>  #include "internal.h"
>>>>  
>>>> @@ -233,11 +234,11 @@ static void acpi_video_caps_check(void)
>>>>  		acpi_video_get_capabilities(NULL);
>>>>  }
>>>>  
>>>> -bool acpi_video_backlight_quirks(void)
>>>> +bool acpi_osi_is_win8(void)
>>>>  {
>>>>  	return acpi_gbl_osi_data >= ACPI_OSI_WIN_8;
>>>>  }
>>>> -EXPORT_SYMBOL(acpi_video_backlight_quirks);
>>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(acpi_osi_is_win8);
>>>>  
>>>>  /* Promote the vendor interface instead of the generic video module.
>>>>   * This function allow DMI blacklists to be implemented by externals
>>>> @@ -283,6 +284,15 @@ int acpi_video_backlight_support(void)
>>>>  }
>>>>  EXPORT_SYMBOL(acpi_video_backlight_support);
>>>>  
>>>> +bool acpi_video_verify_backlight_support(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	if (!(acpi_video_support & ACPI_VIDEO_BACKLIGHT_FORCE_VIDEO) &&
>>>> +	    acpi_osi_is_win8() && backlight_device_registered(BACKLIGHT_RAW))
>>>> +		return false;
>>>
>>> If I'm not mistaken, this will introduce a regression for the people who have
>>> problems with the native i915 backlight on Win8-compatible systems.  I'd prefer
>>> to avoid that at this point.
>>>
>>
>> OK, I see.
>>
>> Then I'm afraid a new kernel command line option is needed, something
>> like video.use_native_backlight and set it to false by default, then
>> for people who need to avoid the ACPI video backlight interface, they
>> can add video.use_native_backlight=true to kernel cmdline.
>>
>> One thing I need to mention is, with the new cmdline option, users will
>> need to manually add a kernel cmdline option to make backlight work on
>> their systems, while they can already make backlight work by modifying
>> xorg.conf to specify using intel_backlight interface, so it doesn't seem
>> this patchset will be very useful then...
> 
> Except if we add a (black)list of systems where that option will be 'true'
> by default instead of the _OSI blacklist we have today.
> 
> Also we can switch the default during development cycles to get an idea
> about how many systems are affected and maybe we can find a way to fix them,
> in which case we can simply drop the option.

Sounds good, I'll update in next revision, thanks for the suggestion!

-Aaron


  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-11  1:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-08  6:39 [PATCH v4 0/4] Fix Win8 backlight issue Aaron Lu
2013-10-08  6:39 ` Aaron Lu
2013-10-08  6:39 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] backlight: introduce backlight_device_registered Aaron Lu
2013-10-08  6:39   ` Aaron Lu
2013-10-10  0:25   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-10-10  0:25     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-10-10  0:54     ` Aaron Lu
2013-10-10  0:54       ` Aaron Lu
2013-10-10  1:07       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-10-10  1:07         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-10-10  4:29       ` Jani Nikula
2013-10-10  4:29         ` Jani Nikula
2013-10-10  4:53         ` Aaron Lu
2013-10-10  4:53           ` Aaron Lu
2013-10-10  5:23           ` Jani Nikula
2013-10-10  5:23             ` Jani Nikula
2013-10-08  6:39 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] ACPI / video: seperate backlight control and event interface Aaron Lu
2013-10-08  6:39   ` Aaron Lu
2013-10-08  6:40 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] ACPI / video: Do not register backlight if win8 and native interface exists Aaron Lu
2013-10-08  6:40   ` Aaron Lu
2013-10-10  0:29   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-10-10  0:29     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-10-10  1:02     ` Aaron Lu
2013-10-10  1:02       ` Aaron Lu
2013-10-10 12:59       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-10-10 12:59         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-10-11  1:09         ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2013-10-11  1:09           ` Aaron Lu
2013-10-08  6:40 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] thinkpad-acpi: fix handle locate for video and query of _BCL Aaron Lu
2013-10-08  6:40   ` Aaron Lu

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