[mlmmj] Msg "bounces" from ml

[mlmmj] Msg "bounces" from ml

[Ravi Chandran. S]

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Hello,

 I have setup a mlmmj ml on centos 6.4.

Many of the messages reach subscribers with From: listname+bounces-xx-subscriber=domain.org@server.org

Part of message body is shown below.

MIME-Version: 1.0
To: "list name"<listname@server.org>
From: Name <xxxx@yyyyy.org>
Subject: RE: [listname] Test ~ photo attachment
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:21:17 +0530
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
   boundary="_9554DF7C-9E7E-4F2C-9064-156C4B549D21_"

--_9554DF7C-9E7E-4F2C-9064-156C4B549D21_
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
   boundary="_3472992B-84C1-4194-A618-CAFF272BEA0E_"

--_3472992B-84C1-4194-A618-CAFF272BEA0E_
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"



Pointers to solve this problem will be appreciated.

TIA
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Regards,
Ravi

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Re: [mlmmj] Msg "bounces" from ml

[Ben Schmidt]

Hi, Ravi!

At first glance, it seems to me that nothing is wrong. Mlmmj uses VERP
to facilitate automatic bounce processing. If you Google 'VERP' you can
find out more about it, and also see the 'verp' tunable in the
documentation (about 2/3 of the way through
http://mlmmj.org/docs/tunables/). It is only the 'envelope from' that
contains this 'bounces' address, not the 'from' header. When users hit
reply, their reply will go to the original sender. If you set up
appropriate List-* headers (see the 'customheaders' tunable), the user
can also hit 'reply list' to send a reply to the list. If the mail
system encounters an error, however, it will report the error to Mlmmj
through the 'bounces' address (rather than the original sender, which
would be annoying for the sender, and possibly a breach of the privacy
of the user whose email address is bouncing). If problems persist, Mlmmj
will unsubscribe the user, saving resources.

I hope this helps.

Ben.



On 22/10/13 2:20 PM, Ravi Chandran. S wrote:
> Hello,
>
>   I have setup a mlmmj ml on centos 6.4.
>
> Many of the messages reach subscribers with From:
> listname+bounces-xx-subscriber=domain.org@server.org
> <mailto:listname+bounces-xx-subscriber=domain.org@server.org>
>
> Part of message body is shown below.
>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To: "list name"<listname@server.org <mailto:rt95@rt95.org>>
> From: Name <xxxx@yyyyy.org <mailto:xxxx@yyyyy.org>>
> Subject: RE: [listname] Test ~ photo attachment
> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:21:17 +0530
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
>     boundary="_9554DF7C-9E7E-4F2C-9064-156C4B549D21_"
>
> --_9554DF7C-9E7E-4F2C-9064-156C4B549D21_
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>     boundary="_3472992B-84C1-4194-A618-CAFF272BEA0E_"
>
> --_3472992B-84C1-4194-A618-CAFF272BEA0E_
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
>
> Pointers to solve this problem will be appreciated.
>
> TIA
> --
> Regards,
> Ravi

Re: [mlmmj] Msg "bounces" from ml

[Ravi Chandran. S]

Hello Ben,

Thanks for your help. 

All emails to this list showed starting with "MIME-Version: 1.0". The other symptom was the weird bounces on and off. 

Problem turned out to be an extra line feed in control/customheaders was screwing up the headers. Now, rectified and all is well.

Thanks for the tip on verp. 

-- 
Regards,
Ravi

> On 22-Oct-2013, at 11:31, Ben Schmidt <mail_ben_schmidt@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Ravi!
> 
> At first glance, it seems to me that nothing is wrong. Mlmmj uses VERP
> to facilitate automatic bounce processing. If you Google 'VERP' you can
> find out more about it, and also see the 'verp' tunable in the
> documentation (about 2/3 of the way through
> http://mlmmj.org/docs/tunables/). It is only the 'envelope from' that
> contains this 'bounces' address, not the 'from' header. When users hit
> reply, their reply will go to the original sender. If you set up
> appropriate List-* headers (see the 'customheaders' tunable), the user
> can also hit 'reply list' to send a reply to the list. If the mail
> system encounters an error, however, it will report the error to Mlmmj
> through the 'bounces' address (rather than the original sender, which
> would be annoying for the sender, and possibly a breach of the privacy
> of the user whose email address is bouncing). If problems persist, Mlmmj
> will unsubscribe the user, saving resources.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Ben.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22/10/13 2:20 PM, Ravi Chandran. S wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>>  I have setup a mlmmj ml on centos 6.4.
>> 
>> Many of the messages reach subscribers with From:
>> listname+bounces-xx-subscriber=domain.org@server.org
>> <mailto:listname+bounces-xx-subscriber=domain.org@server.org>
>> 
>> Part of message body is shown below.
>> 
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> To: "list name"<listname@server.org <mailto:rt95@rt95.org>>
>> From: Name <xxxx@yyyyy.org <mailto:xxxx@yyyyy.org>>
>> Subject: RE: [listname] Test ~ photo attachment
>> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:21:17 +0530
>> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
>>    boundary="_9554DF7C-9E7E-4F2C-9064-156C4B549D21_"
>> 
>> --_9554DF7C-9E7E-4F2C-9064-156C4B549D21_
>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>>    boundary="_3472992B-84C1-4194-A618-CAFF272BEA0E_"
>> 
>> --_3472992B-84C1-4194-A618-CAFF272BEA0E_
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Pointers to solve this problem will be appreciated.
>> 
>> TIA
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Ravi