From: Alexander Sverdlin <alexander.sverdlin-OYasijW0DpE@public.gmane.org>
To: ext Pantelis Antoniou
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3 - V2] Introducing Device Tree Overlays
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 10:45:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <527B6156.1080000@nsn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C10E33D7-53F6-4A50-9B84-1149DDBDC46F-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
Hi!
On 06/11/13 20:08, ext Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
>>> The following patchset introduces Device Tree overlays, a method
>>> of dynamically altering the kernel's live Device Tree, along with
>>> a generic interface to use it in a board agnostic manner.
>>
>> In case this has been discussed and I missed it: Why are we doing this?
>> Isn't it possible to d o the overlay thingy in u-boot and pass a
>> complete device tree to the kernel?
>> Are you trying to do something like hotplug-PCI where the PCI card can
>> be replaced at runtime?
>>
>
> It has been discussed.
>
> We are doing it because
>
> a) We tried to do it in u-boot and it has been a complete disaster.
> Regular users just can't handle bootloader updates.
There are buses we simply do not want to deal with in uboot, like SRIO, PCIe, everything-over-ethernet.
All of them are hot-pluggable. And yeah, device-tree processing in uboot is possible, but in Linux
it's way easier...
> b) It is similar to that. It was originally created for the beaglebone,
> which has a concept of capes (similar to Arduino shields).
> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Capes
> Turns out it's really useful to anyone doing reconfigurable hardware too,
> so that's why FPGA people are thinking of using it.
>
> c) There are people that want to tinker with Linux based hardware boards
> but are not kernel developers. This gives them a way to do so without
> having to recompile the kernel and/or reboot while tinkering.
>
>> Sebastian
>
> Regards
>
> -- Pantelis
>
>
>
--
Best regards,
Alexander Sverdlin.
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From: Alexander Sverdlin <alexander.sverdlin@nsn.com>
To: ext Pantelis Antoniou <panto@antoniou-consulting.com>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@breakpoint.cc>
Cc: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
Matt Porter <matt.porter@linaro.org>,
Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>,
Alison Chaiken <Alison_Chaiken@mentor.com>,
Dinh Nguyen <dinh.linux@gmail.com>, Jan Lubbe <jluebbe@lasnet.de>,
Michael Stickel <ms@mycable.de>,
Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@gmail.com>,
Alan Tull <delicious.quinoa@gmail.com>,
Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
Michael Bohan <mbohan@codeaurora.org>,
Ionut Nicu <ioan.nicu.ext@nsn.com>,
Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>,
Matt Ranostay <mranostay@gmail.com>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3 - V2] Introducing Device Tree Overlays
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 10:45:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <527B6156.1080000@nsn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C10E33D7-53F6-4A50-9B84-1149DDBDC46F@antoniou-consulting.com>
Hi!
On 06/11/13 20:08, ext Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
>>> The following patchset introduces Device Tree overlays, a method
>>> of dynamically altering the kernel's live Device Tree, along with
>>> a generic interface to use it in a board agnostic manner.
>>
>> In case this has been discussed and I missed it: Why are we doing this?
>> Isn't it possible to d o the overlay thingy in u-boot and pass a
>> complete device tree to the kernel?
>> Are you trying to do something like hotplug-PCI where the PCI card can
>> be replaced at runtime?
>>
>
> It has been discussed.
>
> We are doing it because
>
> a) We tried to do it in u-boot and it has been a complete disaster.
> Regular users just can't handle bootloader updates.
There are buses we simply do not want to deal with in uboot, like SRIO, PCIe, everything-over-ethernet.
All of them are hot-pluggable. And yeah, device-tree processing in uboot is possible, but in Linux
it's way easier...
> b) It is similar to that. It was originally created for the beaglebone,
> which has a concept of capes (similar to Arduino shields).
> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Capes
> Turns out it's really useful to anyone doing reconfigurable hardware too,
> so that's why FPGA people are thinking of using it.
>
> c) There are people that want to tinker with Linux based hardware boards
> but are not kernel developers. This gives them a way to do so without
> having to recompile the kernel and/or reboot while tinkering.
>
>> Sebastian
>
> Regards
>
> -- Pantelis
>
>
>
--
Best regards,
Alexander Sverdlin.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-07 9:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-05 18:41 [PATCH 0/3 - V2] Introducing Device Tree Overlays Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-05 18:41 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-05 18:41 ` [PATCH 1/3] OF: Introduce Device Tree resolve support Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <1383676898-29819-2-git-send-email-panto-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-06 15:59 ` Alexander Sverdlin
2013-11-06 15:59 ` Alexander Sverdlin
[not found] ` <527A6777.9080401-OYasijW0DpE@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-06 16:24 ` Ionut Nicu
2013-11-06 16:24 ` Ionut Nicu
2013-11-05 18:41 ` [PATCH 2/3] OF: Introduce DT overlay support Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <1383676898-29819-3-git-send-email-panto-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-06 16:00 ` Alexander Sverdlin
2013-11-06 16:00 ` Alexander Sverdlin
[not found] ` <527A67B7.8040808-OYasijW0DpE@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-06 16:26 ` Ionut Nicu
2013-11-06 16:26 ` Ionut Nicu
2013-11-06 20:41 ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-11-06 20:41 ` Dinh Nguyen
[not found] ` <527AA97F.2050802-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-07 7:10 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 7:10 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-05 18:41 ` [PATCH 3/3] DT: proc: Add runtime overlay interface in /proc Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-06 19:10 ` Rob Herring
[not found] ` <CAL_Jsq+k9NoHxOaNujTG2=0MHm=s4Mh+xhXCZbhPG1EnHvo50A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-06 19:24 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-06 19:24 ` Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <8EBC2D5B-74A4-4A85-8BEE-9EAEBFF045D4-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-06 20:16 ` Matt Porter
2013-11-06 20:16 ` Matt Porter
2013-11-07 7:44 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 7:44 ` Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <1383676898-29819-4-git-send-email-panto-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-06 9:51 ` Ionut Nicu
2013-11-06 9:51 ` Ionut Nicu
2013-11-06 9:57 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 23:38 ` delicious quinoa
2013-11-07 23:38 ` delicious quinoa
2013-11-08 7:12 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-06 8:53 ` [PATCH 0/3 - V2] Introducing Device Tree Overlays Alexander Sverdlin
[not found] ` <1383676898-29819-1-git-send-email-panto-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-05 19:06 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-05 19:06 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-06 0:01 ` Dinh Nguyen
[not found] ` <20131105190633.GA21178-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-06 0:15 ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-11-06 0:15 ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-11-06 19:01 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-06 19:01 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-06 19:08 ` Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <C10E33D7-53F6-4A50-9B84-1149DDBDC46F-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-06 20:31 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-06 20:31 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-06 20:41 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
[not found] ` <20131106204143.GD8662-E0PNVn5OA6ohrxcnuTQ+TQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-07 7:24 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 7:24 ` Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <20131106203102.GB8662-E0PNVn5OA6ohrxcnuTQ+TQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-07 7:23 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 7:23 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 9:45 ` Alexander Sverdlin [this message]
2013-11-07 9:45 ` Alexander Sverdlin
2013-11-06 19:30 ` Guenter Roeck
[not found] ` <20131106193041.GA26796-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-06 20:38 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-06 20:38 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-06 21:17 ` Guenter Roeck
[not found] ` <20131106211754.GA29300-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-07 7:27 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 7:27 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 19:25 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-07 19:25 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
[not found] ` <20131107192558.GA11453-E0PNVn5OA6ohrxcnuTQ+TQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-07 20:06 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 20:06 ` Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <4F47D5F8-F3C7-45CA-9D88-2D814BDC1BC7-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-07 20:46 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-07 20:46 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
[not found] ` <20131107204626.GA11746-E0PNVn5OA6ohrxcnuTQ+TQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-07 23:00 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-07 23:00 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-08 7:12 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-08 8:40 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-11-08 7:09 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-08 7:09 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-11 17:04 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-11 17:04 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20131111170453.4D999C42336-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 8:16 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-12 8:16 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-07 22:51 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-07 22:51 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-07 22:22 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-07 22:22 ` Guenter Roeck
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