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From: Alex Elder <elder@ieee.org>
To: xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] update xfs maintainers
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:24:10 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5285154A.2050301@ieee.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131108220309.GB1935@sgi.com>

On 11/08/2013 04:03 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
> Hey Ric,
> 
> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
>> On 11/08/2013 03:46 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
>>> Hey Christoph,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 11:34:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote:
>>>>> Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at
>>>>> Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago.  The holiday season is
>>>>> coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the
>>>>> bear, and eat my hat.  I need someone to watch the shop while I'm off
>>>>> exploring on Mars.  I trust Mark to do that because he is totally
>>>>> awesome.
>>>>
>>>> Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win you
>>>> a fan base.
>>> It's posted for review.
>>>
>>>> While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel
>>>> development making decisions without even contacting the major
>>>> contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively minor
>>>> contributor to start with.
>>>>
>>>> Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the
>>>> definition from Trond here again:
>>>>
>>>> 	http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000066.html
>>>>
>>>> By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave should
>>>> be the maintainer.  He's been the main contributor and chief architect
>>>> for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the mercy
>>>> of SGI.  This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you're
>>>> doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the
>>>> same time the direction is set by other people that have a much longer
>>>> involvement with the project, and having them officially in control
>>>> would help us forward a lot.  It would also avoid having to spend
>>>> considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintainer.
>>>>
>>>> Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the primary
>>>> XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor and
>>>> architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love to
>>>> retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done
>>>> maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011.
>>> I think we're doing a decent job too.  So thanks for that much at least.  ;)
>>>> I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the
>>>> unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that SGI is
>>>> trying to enforce on the community.
>>> That really didn't happen Christoph.  It's not in my tree or in a pull request.
>>>
>>> Linus, let me know what you want to do.  I do think we're doing a fair job over
>>> here, and (geez) I'm just trying to add Mark as my backup since Alex is too
>>> busy.  I know the RH people want more control, and that's understandable, but
>>> they really don't need to replace me to get their code in.  Ouch.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> 	Ben
>>
>> Christoph is not a Red Hat person.
>>
>> Jeff is from Oracle.
>>
>> This is not a Red Hat vs SGI thing,
> 
> Sorry if my read on that was wrong.
>        
>> Dave simply has earned the right
>> to take on the formal leadership role of maintainer.
> 
> Then we're gonna need some Reviewed-bys.  ;)
> 
> From: Ben Myers <bpm@sgi.com>
> 
> xfs: update maintainers 
> 
> Add Dave as maintainer of XFS.

Just so everybody knows I'm cool with this...

Reviewed by: Alex Elder <elder@kernel.org>
(Or Signed-off-by if that's appropriate.)

					-Alex

> Signed-off-by: Ben Myers <bpm@sgi.com>
> ---
>  MAINTAINERS |    2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> Index: b/MAINTAINERS
> ===================================================================
> --- a/MAINTAINERS	2013-11-08 15:20:18.935186245 -0600
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS	2013-11-08 15:22:50.685245977 -0600
> @@ -9387,8 +9387,8 @@ F:	drivers/xen/*swiotlb*
>  
>  XFS FILESYSTEM
>  P:	Silicon Graphics Inc
> +M:	Dave Chinner <dchinner@fromorbit.com>
>  M:	Ben Myers <bpm@sgi.com>
> -M:	Alex Elder <elder@kernel.org>
>  M:	xfs@oss.sgi.com
>  L:	xfs@oss.sgi.com
>  W:	http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-14 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-07 22:02 xfs: update maintainers file Ben Myers
2013-11-07 22:08 ` Mark Tinguely
2013-11-07 22:32   ` [PATCH v2] " Ben Myers
2013-11-07 23:18     ` Alex Elder
2013-11-08  2:23   ` xfs: " Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08  2:30     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2013-11-08  5:24     ` Jeff Liu
2013-11-08 11:03     ` XFS leadership and a new co-maintainer candidate Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 11:03       ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 18:03       ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 18:03         ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 18:09         ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 18:09           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 19:45           ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 19:45             ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 19:34         ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-08 19:34           ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-08 20:32           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 20:32             ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 20:46           ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 20:46             ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 20:50             ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 20:50               ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 22:03               ` [PATCH] update xfs maintainers Ben Myers
2013-11-08 22:03                 ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 22:07                 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 22:07                   ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 22:17                   ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 22:17                     ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 23:32                     ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-08 23:32                       ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-09 23:17                       ` Ben Myers
2013-11-09 23:17                         ` Ben Myers
2013-11-08 22:59                 ` Zhi Yong Wu
2013-11-08 22:59                   ` Zhi Yong Wu
2013-11-08 23:44                   ` NeilBrown
2013-11-08 23:44                     ` NeilBrown
2013-11-09 23:51                     ` Ben Myers
2013-11-09 23:51                       ` Ben Myers
2013-11-10  0:30                       ` Ben Myers
2013-11-10  0:30                         ` Ben Myers
2013-11-10  3:13                         ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-10  3:13                           ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-10 23:32                           ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-10 23:32                             ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-10 23:12                         ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-10 23:12                           ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-11  3:49                           ` Ben Myers
2013-11-11  3:49                             ` Ben Myers
2013-11-14  6:22                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-14  6:22                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-15  0:33                   ` Ben Myers
2013-11-15  0:33                     ` Ben Myers
2013-11-14 18:24                 ` Alex Elder [this message]
2013-11-14 18:25                 ` Alex Elder
2013-11-14 18:25                   ` Alex Elder
2013-11-12 17:32             ` XFS leadership and a new co-maintainer candidate Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-12 17:32               ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-11-12 19:30               ` Ben Myers
2013-11-12 19:30                 ` Ben Myers

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