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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>,
	Jerry Hoemann <jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/2] Early use of boot service memory
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:18:41 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <528E94D1.2050809@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131121230744.GA31592-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>

On 11/21/2013 03:07 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 02:01:24PM -0700, Jerry Hoemann wrote:
>>
>> Some platform have firmware that violates the UEFI spec and access boot
>> service code or data segments after the system has called ExitBootServices().
>> The call to efi_reserve_boot_services in setup_arch is a workaround to
>> avoid using boot service memory until after the kernel has done
>> SetVirtualAddressMap.  However, this reservation fragments memory
>> which can cause large allocations early in boot (e.g. crash kernel)
>> to fail.
> 
> This is a problem we have to solve, but I don't think this is the right 
> way to solve it. Why do we not just reattempt to perform the allocation 
> immediately after we've freed the boot services regions?
> 

Wouldn't the memory map already have gotten scrambled all to hell by then?

	-hpa

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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Jerry Hoemann <jerry.hoemann@hp.com>
Cc: rob@landley.net, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	x86@kernel.org, matt.fleming@intel.com, yinghai@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, bp@suse.de, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	penberg@kernel.org, mingo.kernel.org@gmail.com,
	vgoyal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/2] Early use of boot service memory
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:18:41 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <528E94D1.2050809@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131121230744.GA31592@srcf.ucam.org>

On 11/21/2013 03:07 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 02:01:24PM -0700, Jerry Hoemann wrote:
>>
>> Some platform have firmware that violates the UEFI spec and access boot
>> service code or data segments after the system has called ExitBootServices().
>> The call to efi_reserve_boot_services in setup_arch is a workaround to
>> avoid using boot service memory until after the kernel has done
>> SetVirtualAddressMap.  However, this reservation fragments memory
>> which can cause large allocations early in boot (e.g. crash kernel)
>> to fail.
> 
> This is a problem we have to solve, but I don't think this is the right 
> way to solve it. Why do we not just reattempt to perform the allocation 
> immediately after we've freed the boot services regions?
> 

Wouldn't the memory map already have gotten scrambled all to hell by then?

	-hpa


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-21 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-21 21:01 [RFC v2 0/2] Early use of boot service memory Jerry Hoemann
2013-11-21 21:01 ` [RFC v2 1/2] efi: " Jerry Hoemann
2013-11-21 21:01 ` [RFC v2 2/2] x86, " Jerry Hoemann
2013-11-21 22:19   ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found] ` <1385067686-73500-1-git-send-email-jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 23:07   ` [RFC v2 0/2] " Matthew Garrett
2013-11-21 23:07     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]     ` <20131121230744.GA31592-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 23:18       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-11-21 23:18         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-21 23:37         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-11-22  1:12           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-22  1:25             ` jerry.hoemann
     [not found]               ` <20131122012524.GA5627-dMAi7lA+vBPDUbYHzcRnttBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-22  1:29                 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-22  1:29                   ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                   ` <CAE9FiQUx5rnA0kpqXRQYtpj9Qk-4bPGaUKEbbF=XHsZbnSd6Rg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-22  1:31                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-22  1:31                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-22  2:34                       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                         ` <20131122023406.GG31921-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-22  2:42                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-22  2:42                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-22  2:32                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-22  2:32                       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-22  2:29                   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                     ` <20131122022957.GE31921-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-22  3:32                       ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-11-22  3:32                         ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-11-21 23:31       ` jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY
2013-11-21 23:31         ` jerry.hoemann
2013-11-21 23:38         ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]           ` <20131121233831.GB32121-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-22  1:05             ` jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY
2013-11-22  1:05               ` jerry.hoemann
2013-11-22  1:16               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-16 18:43                 ` jerry.hoemann

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