From: hdegoede@redhat.com (Hans de Goede)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [linux-sunxi] Re: [PATCH 04/10] net: stmmac: sunxi platfrom extensions for GMAC in Allwinner A20 SoC's
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 20:04:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52A61435.6040803@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGb2v64LNxnz--vn0u9zwmt7MQJZ=uz2fs0H3zDSse_XDfdK4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,
On 12/09/2013 06:56 PM, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On 12/09/2013 12:10 PM, srinivas kandagatla wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Chen,
>>> Good to know that Allwinner uses gmac.
>>>
>>> On ST SoC, we have very similar requirements, before we merge any of
>>> these changes I think we need to come up with common way to solve both
>>> Allwinner and ST SOCs use cases.
>>>
>>> I have already posted few patches on to net-dev
>>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2013/11/12/243 to add Glue driver on top of stmmac
>>> driver.
>>>
>>>
>>> There are few reasons for the way I have done it.
>>>
>>> 1> I did not want to modify gmac driver in any sense to when a new SOC
>>> support is added.
>>> 2> As the SOC specific glue logic sits on top of standard GMAC IP, it
>>> makes sense to represent it proper harware hierarchy.
>>
>>
>> On top often is not the correct term / how things are done in practice.
>>
>> Most of the time the glue are modifications to the ip block, iow in
>> hardware they are not nested / hierarchical at all. We've had similar
>> constructs for ahci platform drivers and there we are actively trying to
>> move away from the whole nested platform devices as that has various
>> issues:
>>
>> 1) It is wrong / does not reflect reality
>> 2) It breaks deferred probing which is often used on SOCs
>>
>> I actually think Wens' approach using a SOC specific init function
>> in platform data is sound, and this is also used a lot else where.
>>
>> As for using the nested approach elsewhere, I only know about AHCI
>> platform driver doing that, and there we are actively trying to move
>> away from it.
>>
>>
>> Now reading this has also made me take a closer look at wens' patch
>> for this. Wens, I see that you directly modify registers in the ccm
>> that is a big no-no instead you should add a helper function to
>> sunxi-clk.c and use that, see ie:
>> https://bitbucket.org/emiliolopez/linux/commits/2b95847d9aa4aa13317dd7358ffcbd951dcb5eff?at=master
>
> Yes, this has been raised by Maxime. The odd "GMAC_IF_TYPE_RGMII" or
> "gmac interface type bit" has been bugging me.
>
> Additionally, the TX clock has 2 inputs (not counting MII [1]).
> The internal one is most likely controlled by the GMAC. The clock
> rate is set internally to match the link speed. The external clock
> source has controllable dividers to get the correct clock rate.
> This shouldn't be hard to model with CCF though.
>
> In hardware, this is probably a mux between the GMAC clock generator
> and the GMAC data transmit logic.
>
> My current plan is to choose MII when the clock is disabled,
> and choose either of the inputs when it is enabled. I will
> have to learn more about the CCF first.
OK, in this case I would be tempted to just go with a custom sunxi
function in the sunx-clk mode like what we have for the mmc stuff,
but if you think you can model this with the regular clock stuff,
that is of course fine too :)
Regards,
Hans
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To: Chen-Yu Tsai <wens-jdAy2FN1RRM@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-sunxi <linux-sunxi-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH 04/10] net: stmmac: sunxi platfrom extensions for GMAC in Allwinner A20 SoC's
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 20:04:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52A61435.6040803@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGb2v64LNxnz--vn0u9zwmt7MQJZ=uz2fs0H3zDSse_XDfdK4Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Hi,
On 12/09/2013 06:56 PM, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On 12/09/2013 12:10 PM, srinivas kandagatla wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Chen,
>>> Good to know that Allwinner uses gmac.
>>>
>>> On ST SoC, we have very similar requirements, before we merge any of
>>> these changes I think we need to come up with common way to solve both
>>> Allwinner and ST SOCs use cases.
>>>
>>> I have already posted few patches on to net-dev
>>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2013/11/12/243 to add Glue driver on top of stmmac
>>> driver.
>>>
>>>
>>> There are few reasons for the way I have done it.
>>>
>>> 1> I did not want to modify gmac driver in any sense to when a new SOC
>>> support is added.
>>> 2> As the SOC specific glue logic sits on top of standard GMAC IP, it
>>> makes sense to represent it proper harware hierarchy.
>>
>>
>> On top often is not the correct term / how things are done in practice.
>>
>> Most of the time the glue are modifications to the ip block, iow in
>> hardware they are not nested / hierarchical at all. We've had similar
>> constructs for ahci platform drivers and there we are actively trying to
>> move away from the whole nested platform devices as that has various
>> issues:
>>
>> 1) It is wrong / does not reflect reality
>> 2) It breaks deferred probing which is often used on SOCs
>>
>> I actually think Wens' approach using a SOC specific init function
>> in platform data is sound, and this is also used a lot else where.
>>
>> As for using the nested approach elsewhere, I only know about AHCI
>> platform driver doing that, and there we are actively trying to move
>> away from it.
>>
>>
>> Now reading this has also made me take a closer look at wens' patch
>> for this. Wens, I see that you directly modify registers in the ccm
>> that is a big no-no instead you should add a helper function to
>> sunxi-clk.c and use that, see ie:
>> https://bitbucket.org/emiliolopez/linux/commits/2b95847d9aa4aa13317dd7358ffcbd951dcb5eff?at=master
>
> Yes, this has been raised by Maxime. The odd "GMAC_IF_TYPE_RGMII" or
> "gmac interface type bit" has been bugging me.
>
> Additionally, the TX clock has 2 inputs (not counting MII [1]).
> The internal one is most likely controlled by the GMAC. The clock
> rate is set internally to match the link speed. The external clock
> source has controllable dividers to get the correct clock rate.
> This shouldn't be hard to model with CCF though.
>
> In hardware, this is probably a mux between the GMAC clock generator
> and the GMAC data transmit logic.
>
> My current plan is to choose MII when the clock is disabled,
> and choose either of the inputs when it is enabled. I will
> have to learn more about the CCF first.
OK, in this case I would be tempted to just go with a custom sunxi
function in the sunx-clk mode like what we have for the mmc stuff,
but if you think you can model this with the regular clock stuff,
that is of course fine too :)
Regards,
Hans
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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>
Cc: linux-sunxi <linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com>,
Giuseppe Cavallaro <peppe.cavallaro@st.com>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: [PATCH 04/10] net: stmmac: sunxi platfrom extensions for GMAC in Allwinner A20 SoC's
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 20:04:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52A61435.6040803@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGb2v64LNxnz--vn0u9zwmt7MQJZ=uz2fs0H3zDSse_XDfdK4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,
On 12/09/2013 06:56 PM, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On 12/09/2013 12:10 PM, srinivas kandagatla wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Chen,
>>> Good to know that Allwinner uses gmac.
>>>
>>> On ST SoC, we have very similar requirements, before we merge any of
>>> these changes I think we need to come up with common way to solve both
>>> Allwinner and ST SOCs use cases.
>>>
>>> I have already posted few patches on to net-dev
>>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2013/11/12/243 to add Glue driver on top of stmmac
>>> driver.
>>>
>>>
>>> There are few reasons for the way I have done it.
>>>
>>> 1> I did not want to modify gmac driver in any sense to when a new SOC
>>> support is added.
>>> 2> As the SOC specific glue logic sits on top of standard GMAC IP, it
>>> makes sense to represent it proper harware hierarchy.
>>
>>
>> On top often is not the correct term / how things are done in practice.
>>
>> Most of the time the glue are modifications to the ip block, iow in
>> hardware they are not nested / hierarchical at all. We've had similar
>> constructs for ahci platform drivers and there we are actively trying to
>> move away from the whole nested platform devices as that has various
>> issues:
>>
>> 1) It is wrong / does not reflect reality
>> 2) It breaks deferred probing which is often used on SOCs
>>
>> I actually think Wens' approach using a SOC specific init function
>> in platform data is sound, and this is also used a lot else where.
>>
>> As for using the nested approach elsewhere, I only know about AHCI
>> platform driver doing that, and there we are actively trying to move
>> away from it.
>>
>>
>> Now reading this has also made me take a closer look at wens' patch
>> for this. Wens, I see that you directly modify registers in the ccm
>> that is a big no-no instead you should add a helper function to
>> sunxi-clk.c and use that, see ie:
>> https://bitbucket.org/emiliolopez/linux/commits/2b95847d9aa4aa13317dd7358ffcbd951dcb5eff?at=master
>
> Yes, this has been raised by Maxime. The odd "GMAC_IF_TYPE_RGMII" or
> "gmac interface type bit" has been bugging me.
>
> Additionally, the TX clock has 2 inputs (not counting MII [1]).
> The internal one is most likely controlled by the GMAC. The clock
> rate is set internally to match the link speed. The external clock
> source has controllable dividers to get the correct clock rate.
> This shouldn't be hard to model with CCF though.
>
> In hardware, this is probably a mux between the GMAC clock generator
> and the GMAC data transmit logic.
>
> My current plan is to choose MII when the clock is disabled,
> and choose either of the inputs when it is enabled. I will
> have to learn more about the CCF first.
OK, in this case I would be tempted to just go with a custom sunxi
function in the sunx-clk mode like what we have for the mmc stuff,
but if you think you can model this with the regular clock stuff,
that is of course fine too :)
Regards,
Hans
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-09 19:04 UTC|newest]
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2013-12-06 17:29 [PATCH 00/10] net: stmmac: Add sun7i GMAC glue layer Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` [PATCH 01/10] net: stmmac: Enable stmmac main clock when probing hardware Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 10:33 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-07 10:33 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-07 10:33 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-09 2:43 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 2:43 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 2:43 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 10:09 ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
2013-12-09 10:09 ` Hans de Goede
2013-12-09 10:09 ` Hans de Goede
2013-12-10 20:05 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-10 20:05 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-10 20:05 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-12 4:31 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-12 4:31 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-12 4:31 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 7:14 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2013-12-09 7:14 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2013-12-09 7:14 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2013-12-09 7:26 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 7:26 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 7:26 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` [PATCH 02/10] net: stmmac: Honor DT parameter to force DMA store and forward mode Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 21:26 ` David Miller
2013-12-06 21:26 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20131206.162606.2277176361893801778.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-07 1:19 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 1:23 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 1:23 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 1:23 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 10:07 ` maxime.ripard
2013-12-07 10:07 ` maxime.ripard
2013-12-07 10:07 ` maxime.ripard
2013-12-07 11:06 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-07 11:06 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-07 11:06 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-09 2:59 ` [linux-sunxi] " Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 2:59 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 2:59 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-10 20:10 ` [linux-sunxi] " maxime.ripard
2013-12-10 20:10 ` maxime.ripard
2013-12-10 20:10 ` maxime.ripard
2013-12-06 17:29 ` [PATCH 03/10] net: stmmac: Use platform data tied with compatible strings Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 21:26 ` David Miller
2013-12-06 21:26 ` David Miller
2013-12-07 2:13 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 2:13 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 2:13 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` [PATCH 04/10] net: stmmac: sunxi platfrom extensions for GMAC in Allwinner A20 SoC's Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 10:27 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-07 10:27 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-07 10:27 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-07 11:12 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-07 11:12 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-07 11:12 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-07 11:46 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-07 11:46 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-07 11:46 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-07 12:50 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-07 12:50 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-07 12:50 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-12-07 13:34 ` [linux-sunxi] " Emilio López
2013-12-07 13:34 ` Emilio López
2013-12-07 13:34 ` Emilio López
2013-12-09 11:10 ` srinivas kandagatla
2013-12-09 11:10 ` srinivas kandagatla
2013-12-09 11:10 ` srinivas kandagatla
2013-12-09 16:16 ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
2013-12-09 16:16 ` Hans de Goede
2013-12-09 16:16 ` Hans de Goede
2013-12-09 17:56 ` [linux-sunxi] " Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 17:56 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 17:56 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 19:04 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2013-12-09 19:04 ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
2013-12-09 19:04 ` Hans de Goede
2013-12-10 20:14 ` [linux-sunxi] " Maxime Ripard
2013-12-10 20:14 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-10 20:14 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-09 17:34 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 17:34 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 17:34 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-10 14:59 ` srinivas kandagatla
2013-12-10 14:59 ` srinivas kandagatla
2013-12-10 14:59 ` srinivas kandagatla
2013-12-10 20:23 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-10 20:23 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-10 20:23 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-11 12:17 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-11 12:17 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-11 12:17 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-11 14:45 ` srinivas kandagatla
2013-12-11 14:45 ` srinivas kandagatla
2013-12-11 14:45 ` srinivas kandagatla
2013-12-12 7:27 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-12 7:27 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-12 7:27 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-12 9:04 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-12 9:04 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-12 9:04 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-12 10:31 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-12 10:31 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-12 10:31 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-13 10:38 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-13 10:38 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-13 10:38 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-24 3:27 ` [linux-sunxi] " Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-24 3:27 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-24 3:27 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2014-01-02 13:11 ` [linux-sunxi] " srinivas kandagatla
2014-01-02 13:11 ` srinivas kandagatla
2014-01-02 13:11 ` srinivas kandagatla
2014-01-07 10:24 ` [linux-sunxi] " Chen-Yu Tsai
2014-01-07 10:24 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2014-01-07 10:24 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 11:21 ` srinivas kandagatla
2013-12-09 11:21 ` srinivas kandagatla
2013-12-09 11:21 ` srinivas kandagatla
2013-12-09 13:44 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-12-09 13:44 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-12-09 13:44 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-12-09 15:45 ` [linux-sunxi] " Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 15:45 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 15:45 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` [PATCH 05/10] ARM: dts: sun7i: Add GMAC controller node to sun7i DTSI Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` [PATCH 06/10] ARM: dts: sun7i: Add pin muxing options for the GMAC Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` [PATCH 07/10] ARM: dts: sun7i: cubietruck: Enable " Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 21:09 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-06 21:09 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-07 1:35 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 1:35 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 1:35 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 1:57 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-07 1:57 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-07 1:57 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-09 2:55 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 2:55 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 2:55 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-09 17:48 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-09 17:48 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-09 17:48 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-10 4:11 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-10 4:11 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-10 4:11 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-10 17:23 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-10 17:23 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-10 17:23 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-13 10:21 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2013-12-13 10:21 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2013-12-13 10:21 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2013-12-13 10:21 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2013-12-06 17:29 ` [PATCH 08/10] ARM: dts: sun7i: cubieboard2: Enable GMAC instead of EMAC Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 21:10 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-06 21:10 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-06 21:10 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-12-06 17:29 ` [PATCH 09/10] ARM: dts: sun7i: olinuxino-micro: " Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` [PATCH 10/10] ARM: dts: sun7i: Add ethernet alias for GMAC Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 17:29 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 10:15 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-07 10:15 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-07 10:15 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-12-07 16:20 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 16:20 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-07 16:20 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2013-12-06 20:52 ` [linux-sunxi] [PATCH 00/10] net: stmmac: Add sun7i GMAC glue layer Michal Suchanek
2013-12-06 20:52 ` Michal Suchanek
2013-12-06 20:52 ` Michal Suchanek
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