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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] binfmt_elf: fix PIE load with randomization disabled
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 16:37:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52A66235.3010405@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9rOpuf1=LPBJzUHmgb2x6WDu=yUsKE+iZansaPDQfCPaejw@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/09/2013 03:53 PM, H.J. Lu wrote:
>>>
>>> x86-64 small model is limited to 4GB in size.  You can't build
>>> a dynamic executable in small model larger than 4GB.
>>>
>>> There are medium and large models.  But they are slower than
>>> small models as well as small models in PIE.  Also there are
>>> no glibc run-times for medium and large models.
>>>
>> Compiling for the small PIC model shouldn't automatically mean
>> generating a PIE (ET_DYN) executable, though (and if those are
>> inherently linked, that is a fundamental bug IMNSHO.)
> 
> PIE uses PIC. But GCC has -fPIE and -fPIC.  They aren't
> the same.   You build PIE with
> 
> 1. Compile with -fPIE.
> 2. Link with -pie.
> 

I'm talking about the memory model ("small PIC model").  I don't see why
it should be encapsulated in a PIE (ET_DYN) container if the user
doesn't want it to be relocatable.

	-hpa


  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-10  0:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-09 15:50 [PATCH] binfmt_elf: fix PIE load with randomization disabled H.J. Lu
2013-12-09 20:57 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-12-09 21:03   ` H.J. Lu
2013-12-09 21:13     ` Jiri Kosina
2013-12-09 21:47       ` H.J. Lu
2013-12-09 21:49         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-09 21:52           ` H.J. Lu
2013-12-09 21:53             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-09 21:59               ` H.J. Lu
2013-12-09 22:01                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-09 22:03                   ` H.J. Lu
2013-12-11 13:36                     ` Jiri Kosina
2013-12-11 13:41                       ` H.J. Lu
2013-12-11 17:49                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-11 18:21                           ` H.J. Lu
2013-12-11 19:43                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-11 20:02                               ` H.J. Lu
2013-12-09 21:51         ` Jiri Kosina
2013-12-09 21:39     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-09 21:44       ` H.J. Lu
2013-12-09 23:35         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-09 23:53           ` H.J. Lu
2013-12-10  0:37             ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-12-10  0:41               ` H.J. Lu

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