From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: joeyli <jlee@suse.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>,
Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>,
Elliott@hp.com, samer.el-haj-mahmoud@hp.com,
Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.de>,
werner@suse.com, trenn@suse.de, JBeulich@suse.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rtc-linux@googlegroups.com,
x86@kernel.org,
"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/14] rtc: block registration of rtc-cmos when CMOS RTC Not Present
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:20:54 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52B3C5A6.3070805@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1387511650.3539.4294.camel@linux-s257.site>
On 12/19/2013 07:54 PM, joeyli wrote:
> Hi hpa,
>
> 於 四,2013-12-19 於 06:38 -0800,H. Peter Anvin 提到:
>> Where did you find a platform with "no CMOS" set and a PNP RTC? I find the expect behavior in that case to be quite ambiguous and it is not at all clear to me that what you have here is the right thing.
>
> Actually there doesn't have the box both with "No CMOS" and PNP device.
> I choice to totally block rtc-cmos driver when "No CMOS RTC" because the
> definition in ACPI spec:
>
> CMOS RTC Not Present
>
> If set, indicates that the CMOS RTC is either not implemented, or
> does not exist at the legacy addresses. OSPM uses the Control
> Method Time and Alarm Namespace device instead.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> It suggest us using ACPI TAD interface when this flag present. But, I
> agreed your point for this is ambiguous due to ACPI spec didn't clear
> define the relationship between PNP0B0x.
>
> Maybe we can do more detail check in cmos_init when "No CMOS RTC" set:
> + check if have ACPI TAD device, then block rtc-cmos
> + check if no ACPI TAD device, but have PNP0B0x, then we use PNP0b0x.
>
I think the only thing we should use that bit for is to inhibit the
last-resort probing of I/O ports 0x70-0x73... if at all.
-hpa
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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: joeyli <jlee@suse.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>,
Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>,
Elliott@hp.com, samer.el-haj-mahmoud@hp.com,
Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.de>,
werner@suse.com, trenn@suse.de, JBeulich@suse.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rtc-linux@googlegroups.com,
x86@kernel.org,
"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/14] rtc: block registration of rtc-cmos when CMOS RTC Not Present
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:20:54 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52B3C5A6.3070805@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1387511650.3539.4294.camel@linux-s257.site>
On 12/19/2013 07:54 PM, joeyli wrote:
> Hi hpa,
>
> 於 四,2013-12-19 於 06:38 -0800,H. Peter Anvin 提到:
>> Where did you find a platform with "no CMOS" set and a PNP RTC? I find the expect behavior in that case to be quite ambiguous and it is not at all clear to me that what you have here is the right thing.
>
> Actually there doesn't have the box both with "No CMOS" and PNP device.
> I choice to totally block rtc-cmos driver when "No CMOS RTC" because the
> definition in ACPI spec:
>
> CMOS RTC Not Present
>
> If set, indicates that the CMOS RTC is either not implemented, or
> does not exist at the legacy addresses. OSPM uses the Control
> Method Time and Alarm Namespace device instead.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> It suggest us using ACPI TAD interface when this flag present. But, I
> agreed your point for this is ambiguous due to ACPI spec didn't clear
> define the relationship between PNP0B0x.
>
> Maybe we can do more detail check in cmos_init when "No CMOS RTC" set:
> + check if have ACPI TAD device, then block rtc-cmos
> + check if no ACPI TAD device, but have PNP0B0x, then we use PNP0b0x.
>
I think the only thing we should use that bit for is to inhibit the
last-resort probing of I/O ports 0x70-0x73... if at all.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-20 4:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-19 7:43 [RFC PATCH 00/14] Support timezone of ACPI TAD and EFI TIME Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:43 ` Lee, Chun-Yi
[not found] ` <1387439053-8711-1-git-send-email-jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-19 7:44 ` [PATCH 01/14] rtc-efi: fix decrease day twice when computing year days Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:44 ` Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:44 ` [PATCH 03/14] rtc: block registration of rtc-cmos when CMOS RTC Not Present Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:44 ` Lee, Chun-Yi
[not found] ` <1387439053-8711-4-git-send-email-jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-19 14:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 14:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <6fc9a2f9-eae7-4588-a092-f338053ec96a-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 3:54 ` joeyli
2013-12-20 3:54 ` joeyli
2013-12-20 4:20 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-12-20 4:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 14:59 ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] Support timezone of ACPI TAD and EFI TIME H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <52B309EB.90300-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-19 16:04 ` Alessandro Zummo
2013-12-19 16:04 ` Alessandro Zummo
2013-12-20 4:05 ` joeyli
2013-12-20 4:05 ` joeyli
[not found] ` <1387512357.3539.4317.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 4:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 4:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <52B3C5F0.1060303-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 5:38 ` joeyli
2013-12-20 5:38 ` joeyli
[not found] ` <1387517916.3539.4446.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 21:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 21:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <52B4B242.5010002-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 21:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 21:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 21:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-12-20 21:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-12-20 21:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <52B4BA0A.1030902-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 21:50 ` Matt Fleming
2013-12-20 21:50 ` Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20131220215056.GA29501-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 22:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-12-20 22:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <3476450.BMEcId2Lgj-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-21 12:21 ` Matt Fleming
2013-12-21 12:21 ` Matt Fleming
2014-01-12 0:30 ` [RFT][PATCH] ACPI / init: Run acpi_early_init() before efi_enter_virtual_mode() (was: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] Support timezone of ACPI TAD and EFI TIME) Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <2530951.HFPX8MI38t-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-12 9:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-12 9:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-01-14 2:04 ` Toshi Kani
[not found] ` <1389665096.1792.271.camel-RbGIw1UOYPVo/CpIj0byZw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-14 16:25 ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-14 16:25 ` Toshi Kani
2014-01-12 11:05 ` Matt Fleming
2014-01-12 11:05 ` Matt Fleming
2014-01-17 12:20 ` Matt Fleming
2014-01-14 4:09 ` joeyli
2014-01-14 4:09 ` joeyli
[not found] ` <1389672548.24105.252.camel-ONCj+Eqt86TasUa73XJKwA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-14 16:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-14 16:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-01-14 18:00 ` [RFT][PATCH] ACPI / init: Run acpi_early_init() before efi_enter_virtual_mode() H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-14 18:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-14 20:32 ` Toshi Kani
[not found] ` <1389731547.1792.296.camel-RbGIw1UOYPVo/CpIj0byZw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-15 7:18 ` joeyli
2014-01-15 7:18 ` joeyli
[not found] ` <2787644.ytU7M33B4r-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-21 2:43 ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] Support timezone of ACPI TAD and EFI TIME joeyli
2013-12-21 2:43 ` joeyli
2013-12-20 10:53 ` Thomas Renninger
2013-12-20 10:53 ` Thomas Renninger
2013-12-20 22:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 22:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 15:16 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-20 15:16 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-20 16:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 16:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 16:58 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-20 16:58 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-20 20:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 20:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <a049daea-a713-4d06-b35f-61f3bec06ba9-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 20:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-20 20:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-20 21:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 21:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-20 21:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-12-19 7:51 Lee, Chun-Yi
[not found] ` <1387439515-8926-1-git-send-email-jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-19 7:51 ` [PATCH 03/14] rtc: block registration of rtc-cmos when CMOS RTC Not Present Lee, Chun-Yi
2013-12-19 7:51 ` Lee, Chun-Yi
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