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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-fbdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart
	<laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Sebastian Hesselbarth
	<sebastian.hesselbarth-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Clark <robdclark-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Inki Dae <inki.dae-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Thierry Reding
	<thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Doc/DT: DT bindings for various display components
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 16:48:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5310BDE3.60603@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140228162752.GU21483-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>

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On 28/02/14 18:27, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 02:20:07PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>> Shortly about the display components in the series, in the order of probable
>> public interest:
>>
>> * Analog TV, DVI and HDMI Connectors represent a respective connector on the
>>   board. They don't do much, but they do mark the end of the video pipeline (from
>>   the board's pov), and they should also in the future offer ways to handle
>>   things like the +5V pin on DVI and HDMI connector and HPD pin.
> 
> The big thing which concerns me is that we're using very generic
> compatible strings here - has anyone done any searches to see whether
> there are any existing standards for this kind of stuff already?

I did look for any display related DT bindings when I started the work
on OMAP DSS DT bindings. I didn't really find any. If I recall right,
the only thing I found was an example of basically:

fb@1234567 {
	compatible="asd";
	reg=<1234567>;
};

So just a node for "framebuffer", with the register addresses. And maybe
video timings in some form.

Maybe I didn't know where to look.

> Even if none can be found, if we're going to create something like
> this, it should probably become a public standard not just for Linux.

This is totally unclear to me. How does it become a public standard?
What's the forum for this?

> If we're not willing to do that, I'd suggest prefixing the compatible
> strings with "linux," as a "company" identifier so that there's no
> chance that we may hit some major problem caused by a conflicting
> implementation in the future.

I don't have an issue with "linux," either. We could always later remove
the prefix (but keep drivers compatible with it). So it sounds quite a
safe approach to me, if we're not quite clear if these bindings are
acceptable, or how to get "public approval" for them.

 Tomi



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From: tomi.valkeinen@ti.com (Tomi Valkeinen)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 0/9] Doc/DT: DT bindings for various display components
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:48:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5310BDE3.60603@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140228162752.GU21483@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On 28/02/14 18:27, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 02:20:07PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>> Shortly about the display components in the series, in the order of probable
>> public interest:
>>
>> * Analog TV, DVI and HDMI Connectors represent a respective connector on the
>>   board. They don't do much, but they do mark the end of the video pipeline (from
>>   the board's pov), and they should also in the future offer ways to handle
>>   things like the +5V pin on DVI and HDMI connector and HPD pin.
> 
> The big thing which concerns me is that we're using very generic
> compatible strings here - has anyone done any searches to see whether
> there are any existing standards for this kind of stuff already?

I did look for any display related DT bindings when I started the work
on OMAP DSS DT bindings. I didn't really find any. If I recall right,
the only thing I found was an example of basically:

fb at 1234567 {
	compatible="asd";
	reg=<1234567>;
};

So just a node for "framebuffer", with the register addresses. And maybe
video timings in some form.

Maybe I didn't know where to look.

> Even if none can be found, if we're going to create something like
> this, it should probably become a public standard not just for Linux.

This is totally unclear to me. How does it become a public standard?
What's the forum for this?

> If we're not willing to do that, I'd suggest prefixing the compatible
> strings with "linux," as a "company" identifier so that there's no
> chance that we may hit some major problem caused by a conflicting
> implementation in the future.

I don't have an issue with "linux," either. We could always later remove
the prefix (but keep drivers compatible with it). So it sounds quite a
safe approach to me, if we're not quite clear if these bindings are
acceptable, or how to get "public approval" for them.

 Tomi


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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-fbdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart
	<laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Sebastian Hesselbarth
	<sebastian.hesselbarth-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Clark <robdclark-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Inki Dae <inki.dae-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Thierry Reding
	<thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Doc/DT: DT bindings for various display components
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:48:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5310BDE3.60603@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140228162752.GU21483-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>

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On 28/02/14 18:27, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 02:20:07PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>> Shortly about the display components in the series, in the order of probable
>> public interest:
>>
>> * Analog TV, DVI and HDMI Connectors represent a respective connector on the
>>   board. They don't do much, but they do mark the end of the video pipeline (from
>>   the board's pov), and they should also in the future offer ways to handle
>>   things like the +5V pin on DVI and HDMI connector and HPD pin.
> 
> The big thing which concerns me is that we're using very generic
> compatible strings here - has anyone done any searches to see whether
> there are any existing standards for this kind of stuff already?

I did look for any display related DT bindings when I started the work
on OMAP DSS DT bindings. I didn't really find any. If I recall right,
the only thing I found was an example of basically:

fb@1234567 {
	compatible="asd";
	reg=<1234567>;
};

So just a node for "framebuffer", with the register addresses. And maybe
video timings in some form.

Maybe I didn't know where to look.

> Even if none can be found, if we're going to create something like
> this, it should probably become a public standard not just for Linux.

This is totally unclear to me. How does it become a public standard?
What's the forum for this?

> If we're not willing to do that, I'd suggest prefixing the compatible
> strings with "linux," as a "company" identifier so that there's no
> chance that we may hit some major problem caused by a conflicting
> implementation in the future.

I don't have an issue with "linux," either. We could always later remove
the prefix (but keep drivers compatible with it). So it sounds quite a
safe approach to me, if we're not quite clear if these bindings are
acceptable, or how to get "public approval" for them.

 Tomi



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Thread overview: 207+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-28 12:20 [PATCH 0/9] Doc/DT: DT bindings for various display components Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20 ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found] ` <1393590016-9361-1-git-send-email-tomi.valkeinen-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-28 12:20   ` [PATCH 1/9] Doc/DT: Add OMAP DSS DT Bindings Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20   ` [PATCH 2/9] Doc/DT: Add DT binding documentation for Analog TV Connector Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20   ` [PATCH 3/9] Doc/DT: Add DT binding documentation for DVI Connector Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 13:43     ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 13:43       ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 13:43       ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-03  6:25       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-03  6:25         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-03  6:25         ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]     ` <1393590016-9361-4-git-send-email-tomi.valkeinen-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-28 15:59       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 15:59         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 15:59         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:12         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 16:12           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 16:12           ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]           ` <5310B567.7040605-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-28 16:23             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:23               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:23               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]               ` <20140228162327.GT21483-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-28 16:28                 ` Warner Losh
2014-02-28 16:28                   ` Warner Losh
2014-02-28 16:28                   ` Warner Losh
2014-03-05  8:41                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-05  8:41                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-05  8:41                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-06  8:39                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-03-06  8:39                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-03-06  8:39                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                     ` <CAMuHMdWVSfKrudBhE7FW-ZWBvMOLWjrQZvn1qZUfRt_H+P7A2w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-06  8:52                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-06  8:52                         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-06  8:52                         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-07 14:17                         ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-07 14:17                           ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-07 14:17                           ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-10 10:32                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-10 10:32                             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-10 10:32                             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-03  6:42               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-03  6:42                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-03  6:42                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-04 12:54               ` Daniel Vetter
2014-03-04 12:54                 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-03-04 12:54                 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-02-28 16:25             ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-02-28 16:25               ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-02-28 16:25               ` Sebastian Reichel
     [not found]         ` <20140228155937.GQ21483-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-28 16:25           ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 16:25             ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 16:25             ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]             ` <1393604717.3802.61.camel-+qGW7pzALmz7o/J7KWpOmN53zsg1cpMQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-10 21:45               ` Rob Herring
2014-03-10 21:45                 ` Rob Herring
2014-03-10 21:45                 ` Rob Herring
2014-03-11  6:39                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11  6:39                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11  6:39                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11  8:00                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-03-11  8:00                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-03-11  8:00                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-03-11  8:04                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11  8:04                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11  8:04                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11 11:19                       ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-11 11:19                         ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-11 11:19                         ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-11  6:43             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11  6:43               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11  6:43               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20   ` [PATCH 4/9] Doc/DT: Add DT binding documentation for HDMI Connector Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 16:06     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:06       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:06       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:15       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 16:15         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 16:15         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 16:34         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:34           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-01 18:58           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-03-01 18:58             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-03-01 18:58             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-03-03  7:23             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-03  7:23               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-03  7:23               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-05  8:42             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-05  8:42               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-05  8:42               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-04 12:59       ` Daniel Vetter
2014-03-04 12:59         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-03-04 12:59         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-02-28 12:20   ` [PATCH 5/9] Doc/DT: Add DT binding documentation for MIPI DPI Panel Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 13:40     ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 13:40       ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 13:40       ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-03  6:05       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-03  6:05         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-03  6:05         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-17 14:19     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-17 14:19       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-17 14:19       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-18  6:41       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-18  6:41         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-18  6:41         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-18  7:06         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-18  7:06           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-18  7:06           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20   ` [PATCH 6/9] Doc/DT: Add DT binding documentation for MIPI DSI CM Panel Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-17 14:22     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-17 14:22       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-17 14:22       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-18  6:33       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-18  6:33         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-18  6:33         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-18 12:43         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-18 12:43           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-18 12:43           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-28 12:20   ` [PATCH 7/9] Doc/DT: Add DT binding documentation for Sony acx565akm panel Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 13:38     ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 13:38       ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 13:38       ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]       ` <1393594707.3802.31.camel-+qGW7pzALmz7o/J7KWpOmN53zsg1cpMQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-28 13:47         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 13:47           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 13:47           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20   ` [PATCH 8/9] Doc/DT: Add DT binding documentation for TFP410 encoder Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 13:37     ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 13:37       ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 13:37       ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 12:20   ` [PATCH 9/9] Doc/DT: Add DT binding documentation for tpd12s015 encoder Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:20     ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]     ` <1393590016-9361-10-git-send-email-tomi.valkeinen-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-28 16:13       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:13         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:13         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:30         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 16:30           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 16:30           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 12:57   ` [PATCH 0/9] Doc/DT: DT bindings for various display components Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-02-28 12:57     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-02-28 12:57     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-02-28 13:14     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 13:14       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 13:14       ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]       ` <53108B9C.5000006-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-28 13:51         ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-02-28 13:51           ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-02-28 13:51           ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-02-28 15:39           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 15:39             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 15:39             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 16:48           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:48             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 13:47     ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 13:47       ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-28 13:47       ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]       ` <1393595264.3802.39.camel-+qGW7pzALmz7o/J7KWpOmN53zsg1cpMQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-28 13:56         ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-02-28 13:56           ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-02-28 13:56           ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-02-28 16:27   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:27     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:27     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]     ` <20140228162752.GU21483-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-28 16:48       ` Tomi Valkeinen [this message]
2014-02-28 16:48         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 16:48         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-28 16:56         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-28 16:56           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-03  8:04           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-03  8:04             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-03  8:04             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-07 12:56             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-07 12:56               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-07 12:56               ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]             ` <53143796.2050309-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-10 16:05               ` Rob Herring
2014-03-10 16:05                 ` Rob Herring
2014-03-10 16:05                 ` Rob Herring
2014-03-10 16:40                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-10 16:40                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-10 16:40                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                   ` <531DEB1A.5090509-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-10 20:32                     ` Rob Herring
2014-03-10 20:32                       ` Rob Herring
2014-03-10 20:32                       ` Rob Herring
2014-03-12  8:15   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-12  8:15     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-12  8:15     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-17 13:55     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-17 13:55       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-17 13:55       ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]       ` <5326FECF.9070104-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-21 15:37         ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 15:37           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 15:37           ` Grant Likely
2014-02-28 12:37 ` Tomasz Figa
2014-02-28 12:37   ` Tomasz Figa
2014-02-28 12:37   ` Tomasz Figa

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