From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com,
Martin.Runge@rohde-schwarz.com, Andreas.Brief@rohde-schwarz.com
Subject: Re: Final: Add 32 bit VDSO time function support
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 14:56:01 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53126581.1090407@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUH1tZcu0upkTV0gsXtpnf-BAY4vmWKnN19=ZXsbqWT8A@mail.gmail.com>
On 02/28/2014 06:00 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>
> This leads to a potentially interesting question: is rdtsc_barrier()
> actually necessary on UP? IIRC the point is that, if an
> rdtsc_barrier(); rdtsc in one thread is "before" (in the sense of
> being synchronized by some memory operation) an rdtsc_barrier(); rdtsc
> in another thread, then the first rdtsc needs to return an earlier or
> equal time to the second one.
>
> I assume that no UP CPU is silly enough to execute two rdtsc
> instructions out of order relative to each other in the absence of
> barriers. So this is a nonissue on UP.
>
> On the other hand, suppose that some code does:
>
> volatile long x = *(something that's not in cache)
> clock_gettime
>
> I can imagine a modern CPU speculating far enough ahead that the rdtsc
> happens *before* the cache miss. This won't cause visible
> non-monotonicity as far as I can see, but it might annoy people who
> try to benchmark their code.
>
> Note: actually making this change might be a bit tricky. I don't know
> if the alternatives code is smart enough.
>
Let's put it this way... this is at best a third-order optimization...
let's not worry about it right now.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-01 22:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-26 19:34 Final: Add 32 bit VDSO time function support Stefani Seibold
2014-02-26 20:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-26 20:45 ` Greg KH
2014-02-26 20:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-27 0:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-27 1:02 ` [PATCH 0/2] Improvements/fixes to 32-bit vdso timing Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-27 1:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86: Mark __vdso entries as asmlinkage Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-27 3:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 3:39 ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-27 5:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 5:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-27 5:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 20:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-27 23:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 5:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 1:02 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86: Inline the CLOCK_MONOTONIC vdso code Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-28 0:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] vDSO fixes, on top of tip/x86/vdso Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-28 0:18 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] x86: Use the default ABI for the 32-bit vDSO Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-28 7:28 ` Stefani Seibold
2014-02-28 15:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-28 20:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-01 13:43 ` Stefani Seibold
2014-02-28 0:18 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] x86: Inline the CLOCK_MONOTONIC vdso code Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-28 0:18 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] x86: Patch alternatives in the 32-bit vDSO Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-28 7:22 ` Stefani Seibold
2014-03-01 14:04 ` Stefani Seibold
2014-02-28 0:18 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] x86: Zero-pad the VVAR page Andy Lutomirski
2014-02-28 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] vDSO fixes, on top of tip/x86/vdso Stefani Seibold
2014-02-28 20:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-01 14:02 ` Stefani Seibold
2014-02-28 7:22 ` Final: Add 32 bit VDSO time function support Stefani Seibold
2014-03-01 2:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-01 22:56 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-03-02 8:01 ` Stefani Seibold
2014-02-27 5:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 12:14 ` Ingo Molnar
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