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From: Sarah Newman <srn@prgmr.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCHv1] x86: don't schedule when handling #NM exception
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 20:35:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53266D94.70902@prgmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ebfa80c-4a68-4602-bc98-e5d5f0893998@email.android.com>

Can you please review my patch first?  It's only enabled when absolutely required.

On 03/16/2014 08:33 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> No, the right thing is to unf*ck the Xen braindamage and use eagerfpu as a workaround for the legacy hypervisor versions.
> 
> GFP_ATOMIC -> SIGKILL is definitely a NAK.
> 
> On March 16, 2014 8:13:05 PM PDT, Sarah Newman <srn@prgmr.com> wrote:
>> On 03/10/2014 10:15 AM, David Vrabel wrote:
>>> On 10/03/14 16:40, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>>> On 03/10/2014 09:17 AM, David Vrabel wrote:
>>>>> math_state_restore() is called from the #NM exception handler.  It
>> may
>>>>> do a GFP_KERNEL allocation (in init_fpu()) which may schedule.
>>>>>
>>>>> Change this allocation to GFP_ATOMIC, but leave all the other
>> callers
>>>>> of init_fpu() or fpu_alloc() using GFP_KERNEL.
>>>>
>>>> And what the [Finnish] do you do if GFP_ATOMIC fails?
>>>
>>> The same thing it used to do -- kill the task with SIGKILL.  I
>> haven't
>>> changed this behaviour.
>>>
>>>> Sarah's patchset switches Xen PV to use eagerfpu unconditionally,
>> which
>>>> removes the dependency on #NM and is the right thing to do.
>>>
>>> Ok. I'll wait for this series and not pursue this patch any further.
>>
>> Sorry, this got swallowed by my mail filter.
>>
>> I did some more testing and I think eagerfpu is going to noticeably
>> slow things down. When I ran
>> "time sysbench --num-threads=64 --test=threads run" I saw on the order
>> of 15% more time spent in
>> system mode and this seemed consistent over different runs.
>>
>> As for GFP_ATOMIC, unfortunately I don't know a sanctioned test here so
>> I rolled my own. This test
>> sequentially allocated math-using processes in the background until it
>> could not any more.  On a
>> 64MB instance, I saw 10% fewer processes allocated with GFP_ATOMIC
>> compared to GFP_KERNEL when I
>> continually allocated new processes up to OOM conditions (256 vs 228.) 
>> A similar test on a
>> different RFS and a kernel using GFP_NOWAIT showed pretty much no
>> difference in how many processes I
>> could allocate. This doesn't seem too bad unless there is some kind of
>> fragmentation over time which
>> would cause worse performance.
>>
>> Since performance degradation applies at all times and not just under
>> extreme conditions, I think
>> the lesser evil will actually be GFP_ATOMIC.  But it's not necessary to
>> always use GFP_ATOMIC, only
>> under certain conditions - IE when the xen PVABI forces us to.
>>
>> Patches will be supplied shortly.
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-17  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-10 16:17 [PATCHv1] x86: don't schedule when handling #NM exception David Vrabel
2014-03-10 16:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 17:15   ` David Vrabel
2014-03-10 17:25     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 17:25       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-17  3:13     ` Sarah Newman
2014-03-17  3:13       ` Sarah Newman
2014-03-17  3:30       ` [PATCH] x86: Control CR0 TS behavior using dev_na_ts_allowed Sarah Newman
2014-03-17  8:38         ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-17 12:42           ` George Dunlap
2014-03-17 13:35             ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-17 14:05               ` George Dunlap
2014-03-17 14:18                 ` George Dunlap
2014-03-17 15:28                   ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-18 18:07                   ` Sarah Newman
2014-03-18 19:14                     ` David Vrabel
2014-03-17 12:44           ` George Dunlap
2014-03-17 13:35             ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-18 17:48               ` Sarah Newman
2014-03-17  3:32       ` [PATCH] x86, fpu, xen: Allocate fpu state for xen pv based on PVABI behavior Sarah Newman
2014-03-17  3:32       ` Sarah Newman
2014-03-17  3:33       ` [PATCHv1] x86: don't schedule when handling #NM exception H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-17  3:35         ` Sarah Newman
2014-03-17  3:35         ` Sarah Newman [this message]
2014-03-17  3:43           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-17  3:43           ` [Xen-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-17  4:12             ` Sarah Newman
2014-03-17  4:23               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-20  0:00                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-03-20  0:00                 ` [Xen-devel] " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-03-20  2:29                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-20  2:29                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-17  4:23               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-17  4:12             ` Sarah Newman
2014-03-17 13:29             ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2014-03-19 13:21               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-19 13:21               ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-19 15:02                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-19 15:02                 ` [Xen-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-23 13:08                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-03-05 22:08                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-03-05 22:08                     ` [Xen-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2015-03-06 11:46                       ` [PATCHv4] x86, fpu: remove the logic of non-eager fpu mem allocation at the first usage David Vrabel
2015-03-06 11:46                       ` David Vrabel
2014-06-23 13:08                   ` [PATCHv1] x86: don't schedule when handling #NM exception Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-17 13:29             ` David Vrabel
2014-03-17 12:19         ` [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2014-03-17 16:55           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-17 16:55           ` [Xen-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-17 17:05             ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-17 17:05             ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2014-03-17 17:12               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-18  8:14                 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-03-18  8:14                 ` [Xen-devel] " Ingo Molnar
2014-03-17 17:12               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-17 17:14               ` [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2014-03-18 18:17                 ` Sarah Newman
2014-03-18 18:27                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-18 18:27                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-18 18:17                 ` Sarah Newman
2014-03-17 17:14               ` George Dunlap
2014-03-17 12:19         ` George Dunlap
2014-03-17  3:33       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 17:15   ` David Vrabel
2014-03-10 16:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 16:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 16:45 ` H. Peter Anvin

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