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From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	aswin@hp.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ipc,shm: disable shmmax and shmall by default
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2014 08:42:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5340F73A.6090600@colorfullife.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHGf_=pvN96SgLYdR3jPn8VaEfAjq-LX=r=PQRvPGqi6xFJoxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 04/05/2014 08:24 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:00 AM, Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com> wrote:
>> I don't think it makes much sense to set unlimited for both 0 and
>> ULONG_MAX, that would probably just create even more confusion.
I agree.
Unlimited was INT_MAX since 0.99.10 and ULONG_MAX since 2.3.39 (with 
proper backward compatibility for user space).

Adding a second value for unlimited just creates confusion.
>> But then again, we shouldn't even care about breaking things with shmmax
>> or shmall with 0 value, it just makes no sense from a user PoV. shmmax
>> cannot be 0 unless there's an overflow, which voids any valid cases, and
>> thus shmall cannot be 0 either as it would go against any values set for
>> shmmax. I think it's safe to ignore this.
> Agreed.
> IMHO, until you find out any incompatibility issue of this, we don't
> need the switch
> because we can't make good workaround for that. I'd suggest to merge your patch
> and see what happen.
I disagree:
- "shmctl(,IPC_INFO,&buf); if (my_memory_size > buf.shmmax) 
perror("change shmmax");" worked correctly since 0.99.10. I don't think 
that merging the patch and seeing what happens is the right approach.
- setting shmmax by default to ULONG_MAX is the perfect workaround.

What reasons are there against the one-line patch?
 >
 > -#define SHMMAX 0x2000000                /* max shared seg size 
(bytes) */
 > +#define SHMMAX ULONG_MAX                /* max shared seg size 
(bytes) */
 >

--
     Manfred

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From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	aswin@hp.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ipc,shm: disable shmmax and shmall by default
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2014 08:42:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5340F73A.6090600@colorfullife.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHGf_=pvN96SgLYdR3jPn8VaEfAjq-LX=r=PQRvPGqi6xFJoxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 04/05/2014 08:24 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:00 AM, Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com> wrote:
>> I don't think it makes much sense to set unlimited for both 0 and
>> ULONG_MAX, that would probably just create even more confusion.
I agree.
Unlimited was INT_MAX since 0.99.10 and ULONG_MAX since 2.3.39 (with 
proper backward compatibility for user space).

Adding a second value for unlimited just creates confusion.
>> But then again, we shouldn't even care about breaking things with shmmax
>> or shmall with 0 value, it just makes no sense from a user PoV. shmmax
>> cannot be 0 unless there's an overflow, which voids any valid cases, and
>> thus shmall cannot be 0 either as it would go against any values set for
>> shmmax. I think it's safe to ignore this.
> Agreed.
> IMHO, until you find out any incompatibility issue of this, we don't
> need the switch
> because we can't make good workaround for that. I'd suggest to merge your patch
> and see what happen.
I disagree:
- "shmctl(,IPC_INFO,&buf); if (my_memory_size > buf.shmmax) 
perror("change shmmax");" worked correctly since 0.99.10. I don't think 
that merging the patch and seeing what happens is the right approach.
- setting shmmax by default to ULONG_MAX is the perfect workaround.

What reasons are there against the one-line patch?
 >
 > -#define SHMMAX 0x2000000                /* max shared seg size 
(bytes) */
 > +#define SHMMAX ULONG_MAX                /* max shared seg size 
(bytes) */
 >

--
     Manfred

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-06  6:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-31  3:06 [PATCH] ipc,shm: increase default size for shmmax Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-31  3:06 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-31 21:32 ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-31 21:32   ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-31 22:59   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-31 22:59     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-31 23:13     ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-31 23:13       ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-31 23:25       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-31 23:25         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01  0:05         ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01  0:05           ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01  6:29           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-01  6:29             ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-01 19:19             ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 19:19               ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 20:15               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 20:15                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 20:26                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 20:26                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-02  0:11                 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02  0:11                   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02  1:02               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02  1:02                 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02 14:55               ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-04-02 14:55                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-04-02 23:47                 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02 23:47                   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-01 17:01           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 17:01             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 18:10             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 18:10               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 18:31               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 18:31                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 19:51                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 19:51                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 21:01                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 21:01                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 21:12                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 21:12                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 21:29                       ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 21:29                         ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 21:41                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 21:41                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 21:48                           ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 21:48                             ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 22:02                             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 22:02                               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 22:08                               ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 22:08                                 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-13 18:05                                 ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-13 18:05                                   ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-13 23:15                                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-13 23:15                                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-16 22:46                                   ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-16 22:46                                     ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-16 23:19                                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-16 23:19                                       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-17 10:41                                     ` Michael Kerrisk
2014-04-17 10:41                                       ` Michael Kerrisk
2014-04-17 16:41                                       ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-17 16:41                                         ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-17 20:19                                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-17 20:19                                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-01 22:49                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 22:49                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 23:28                               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 23:28                                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 23:56                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-01 23:56                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-02  0:40                                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-02  0:40                                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-02  1:08                                     ` Greg Thelen
2014-04-02  1:08                                       ` Greg Thelen
2014-04-02  1:58                                       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02  1:58                                         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-02  2:11                                         ` Greg Thelen
2014-04-02  2:11                                           ` Greg Thelen
2014-04-03  0:20                                   ` [PATCH] ipc,shm: disable shmmax and shmall by default Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-03  0:20                                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-03 14:07                                     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-03 14:07                                       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2014-04-03 19:02                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-03 19:02                                       ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-03 19:50                                       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-03 19:50                                         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-03 23:39                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-03 23:39                                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-04  5:00                                           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-04  5:00                                             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-05 18:24                                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-05 18:24                                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-06  6:42                                               ` Manfred Spraul [this message]
2014-04-06  6:42                                                 ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-06 16:54                                                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-06 16:54                                                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-03 22:29                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-03 22:29                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-03 23:47                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-03 23:47                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-04-11 18:28                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-11 18:28                                       ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-11 20:27                                       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-11 20:27                                         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-11 20:48                                         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-11 20:48                                           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-12  8:50                                         ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-12  8:50                                           ` Manfred Spraul
2014-04-12 15:33                                           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-12 15:33                                             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 21:43                       ` [PATCH] ipc,shm: increase default size for shmmax Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 21:43                         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-04-01 19:26             ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-01 19:26               ` Andrew Morton

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