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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] i2c algo, Add i2c-algo-i801 driver [v1]
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 13:34:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5345849F.6070909@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1397063381.5276.17.camel@x230>
On 04/09/2014 01:09 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 13:02 -0400, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
>>
>> On 04/09/2014 12:36 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 12:22 -0400, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
>>>> RFC and a work in progress ... I need to go through and do a bunch of error
>>>> condition checking, more testing, etc. I'm just throwing this out there to see
>>>> if anyone has any major concerns about doing something like this.
>>>
>>> This isn't really a good approach. These aren't standardised ACPI
>>> methods, so you have no guarantee that they exist. The fact that a
>>
>> I've looked at the ACPI dump across six different systems (3 different vendors,
>> and an intel whitebox), and the data appears to be identical. Could Intel
>> change these? Yes, of course they could, but that's no different from any other
>> undocumented driver in the kernel.
>
> Not really. These are an internal implementation detail, not an exported
> interface. We try to write drivers for exported interfaces, even if
> they're not documented.
>
>>> method with one of these names exists is no guarantee that it has the
>>> same behaviour as the ones on your board. There's no guarantee that
>>> you're not racing against the firmware.
>>>
>>
>> I think there is -- AFAICT the operations are serialized; if they aren't that is
>> an associated risk. Hopefully someone from Intel will lend a hand here and let
>> me know if I'm doing something horrible ;)
>
> Imagine an i2c chip with indexed register access. What stops:
>
> CPU0 (i2c): CPU1 (ACPI):
> SBWB register address
> SBWB register address
> SBRB register value
> SBRB register value
>
Your example is no different from what we've told people to do right now when
they see the ACPI resource conflict message and use a kernel parameter to
override the error condition. I'm not disputing that this could be a problem --
see my previous comment about hoping that someone @ Intel will let us know if
we're doing something horrible.
P.
> and CPU0 getting back the wrong value?
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-09 17:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-09 16:22 [PATCH RFC] i2c algo, Add i2c-algo-i801 driver [v1] Prarit Bhargava
[not found] ` <1397060563-30431-1-git-send-email-prarit-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-09 16:36 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-04-09 17:02 ` Prarit Bhargava
[not found] ` <53457D0D.7020805-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-09 17:09 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-04-09 17:34 ` Prarit Bhargava [this message]
[not found] ` <5345849F.6070909-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-09 17:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-04-09 17:55 ` Prarit Bhargava
[not found] ` <53458992.4060003-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-09 17:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-04-09 18:02 ` Prarit Bhargava
[not found] ` <53458B2A.30003-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-09 18:27 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-04-09 19:22 ` Jean Delvare
2014-04-09 19:24 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-04-09 19:01 ` Jean Delvare
2014-04-09 19:05 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-04-10 19:15 ` Prarit Bhargava
2014-04-10 20:26 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-04-11 17:47 ` Prarit Bhargava
[not found] ` <53482AC2.2060605-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-11 18:55 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-04-09 18:56 ` Jean Delvare
2014-04-09 18:58 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-04-09 20:25 ` Jean Delvare
2014-04-09 16:37 ` Jean Delvare
2014-04-09 16:57 ` Prarit Bhargava
[not found] ` <53457C00.1030400-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-09 20:27 ` Jean Delvare
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