From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: "Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>, "Ján Tomko" <jtomko@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Michael Roth" <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Anthony Liguori" <aliguori@amazon.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we have a 2.0-rc3 ?
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:27:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5346B84B.4030506@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5346B2A3.1080900@redhat.com>
On 10.04.14 17:02, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 04/10/2014 07:45 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>
>>>>> Is this something that can be quickly fixed (perhaps by reverting the
>>>>> PPC patch until a more complete solution is ready), and if so, is it
>>>>> worth doing for 2.0 proper, rather than waiting for 2.0.1?
>>>> Which way works better for you? I'd be perfectly fine with reverting
>>>> the patch. Libvirt is the only reason that path is there in the first
>>>> place.
>>>>
>>> If I read the git history correctly, there were two patches changing
>>> pci bus
>>> names for ppc in this release, not just one:
>> The main difference is that the g3beige and mac99 targets are not
>> supported by libvirt FWIW :).
>>
>> But I agree that this is messy. And a pretty intrusive change pretty
>> late in the game. Eric, how hard would a special case for this be in
>> libvirt code? Are we talking about a 2 line patch?
> Here's the current libvirt patch proposal:
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2014-April/msg00444.html
>
> a bit more than a 2-line patch:
>
> src/qemu/qemu_capabilities.c | 26 ++++++++++++++++----------
> 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>
> We already have to special case on machine type for all qemu older than
> the point where we introduce sane names; but it would be nicer if that
> were the ONLY special casing (rather than having the _additional_
> special casing that for 2.0, ppc, but not other machines, behave
> differently). The IDEAL situation is to have a QMP command that can
> query which naming convention is in use for a given machine; even if
> such command is not introduced until 2.1, the logic will look something
> like:
>
> if (probe exists)
> use results of probe to set QEMU_CAPS_PCI_MULTIBUS
> else if (machine with sane handling)
> assume QEMU_CAPS_PCI_MULTIBUS
> else
> assume no QEMU_CAPS_PCI_MULTIBUS
>
> and is completely independent of version checks, which means it is
> portable even to downstream backports where the version number is not as
> large as upstream, without any modification when backporting this hunk.
>
> Without a QMP command to probe it, but with all machines switched to
> sane naming in the same version of qemu, the logic looks more like:
>
> if (x86 or 686)
> assume QEMU_CAPS_PCI_MULTIBUS
> else if (version check) // evil for downstream backports
> set QEMU_CAPS_PCI_MULTIBUS if new enough
>
> which looks shorter, but plays havoc with downstream ports, which now
> have to patch the version check to play nicely with downstream.
>
> Furthermore, if qemu 2.0 is released with PPC being a special case, the
> logic expands:
>
> if (x86 or 686)
> assume QEMU_CAPS_PCI_MULTIBUS
> else if (PPC)
> if (version check for 2.0) // evil for downstream
> set QEMU_CAPS_PCI_MULTIBUS
> else if (version check for 2.1) // evil for downstream
> set QEMU_CAPS_PCI_MULTIBUS
>
> and now there are two version checks instead of one that downstream has
> to worry about.
Hrm, so what if we just ditch pre-2.0 support for PPC in libvirt? Then
it'd become
if (machine_type == pc || machine_type == pseries || machine_type ==
ppce500)
assume QEMU_CAPS_PCI_MULTIBUS
else ...
and everyone is happy, no? :)
(note that I prefer to base machine specific bits on machine types, but
if you like to commonalize all PPC machines I'm fine with that too)
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-10 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-10 11:17 [Qemu-devel] Should we have a 2.0-rc3 ? Peter Maydell
2014-04-10 11:24 ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-10 15:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-04-10 11:49 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-04-10 12:44 ` Eric Blake
2014-04-10 12:46 ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-10 12:51 ` Eric Blake
2014-04-10 12:56 ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-10 13:41 ` Ján Tomko
2014-04-10 13:45 ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-10 15:02 ` Eric Blake
2014-04-10 15:27 ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2014-04-10 15:38 ` Eric Blake
2014-04-10 15:42 ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-11 8:01 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-04-11 8:37 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-04-10 15:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-04-10 18:55 ` Cole Robinson
2014-04-10 21:30 ` Peter Maydell
2014-04-11 17:37 ` Peter Maydell
2014-04-11 22:55 ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-12 1:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-04-12 8:48 ` Michael Tokarev
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