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From: Joshua Kinard <kumba@gentoo.org>
To: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
Cc: linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: arch/mips/sgi-ip22/Platform:29: *** gcc doesn't support needed option -mr10k-cache-barrier=store.  Stop.
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 16:23:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <534AF23E.4060809@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140410065928.GW17197@linux-mips.org>

On 04/10/2014 02:59, Ralf Baechle wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 11:02:10PM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote:
> 
>> Odd, I thought R10K systems were locked to booting 64-bit kernels only.  At
>> least the Octane was when it was bootable.  Not sure about IP27.
>>
>> Maybe that's another one of ARCS' ingenious features...
> 
> No; IP27's address map is huge; a single node can take 2GB RAM.  A full
> blown 512 CPU system could have 0.5TB memory.  Your homework for today:
> try to use all that efficiently with highmem ;-)

I'll need to upgrade my electrical service first.  Then install a fusion
power plant in the backyard, with hamster-wheel backups...


> Octane is essentially a specialized, single-node IP27.  It also can take
> more memory than addressable in a 32 bit kernel which assumes that all memory
> is visible in CKSEG0, all I/O in CKSEG1 - or you need to ioremap to CKSEG2/3.
> So 32 bit kernels just don't cut it on Octane either.

I believe that, in Stan's old patches, there was a cutoff at 2GB detected
memory, because he never resolved a problem with DMA/PCI on machines with
>2GB memory.  So the machine was kinda hamstrung there anyways.  That bit of
code was always confusing to forward-port.

If only I could finally find the motivation to figure out HEART's IRQ
trickery and Linux's IRQ system...


> Similarly 32 bit kernels don't cut it on other systems such as Sibyte,
> SGI O2, Octane.  They may be possible for some configurations but that
> that's either too rarely a useful choice or too inefficient.
> 
> Let's say 32 bit is slowly running out of juice :-)
> 

I wonder if I'll be alive when 128-bit becomes all the rage...


>>>> Are you configuring for IP22 (Indy, Indigo2 R4x00), or IP28 (R10000)?  Note,
>>>> IP26 (R8000) is not supported in Linux.  I think OpenBSD got it working, though.
>>>
>>> Wish I'd have a box ....
>>
>> They do pop up on eBay from time-to-time.  UPS destroyed the case mine came
>> in, though.  I've got it in a closet, with duct tape holding the teal skins
>> on.  It does boot to the PROM, but the RTC is probably dead by now.
> 
> The common problem.  You can cut it open with a dremel or similar tool,
> disconect the internal battery and connect an external battery instead.
> There are howtos for this on the web.  I'm also tired of reprogramming
> the MAC address again when I use my Indy so I should do this myself ...

I'll probably stick to finding old DS1386's on eBay :)  Never had much luck
w/ those cutting discs on a Dremel tool.  They shatter too easily and send
little shards of pain flying across the room.

-- 
Joshua Kinard
Gentoo/MIPS
kumba@gentoo.org
4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28

"The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us.  And
our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between."

--Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-13 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <534138d9.RISUZQYUMS8U8s42%fengguang.wu@intel.com>
2014-04-09  5:19 ` arch/mips/sgi-ip22/Platform:29: *** gcc doesn't support needed option -mr10k-cache-barrier=store. Stop Fengguang Wu
2014-04-09  8:24   ` Florian Lohoff
2014-04-09 13:32     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2014-04-09 23:13       ` Fengguang Wu
2014-04-09 23:44         ` Joshua Kinard
2014-04-10  0:38           ` Ralf Baechle
2014-04-10  3:02             ` Joshua Kinard
2014-04-10  6:59               ` Ralf Baechle
2014-04-13 20:23                 ` Joshua Kinard [this message]
2014-04-10 12:10               ` Miod Vallat
2014-04-10 12:46                 ` Ralf Baechle
2014-04-10 13:21         ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2014-04-11  1:59 peter fuerst

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