From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Kernel tinification: shrinking the kernel and avoiding size regressions
Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 10:33:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5363D6E6.3030303@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1399051229.2202.49.camel@dabdike>
On 05/02/2014 10:20 AM, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 13:11 -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
>> On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 09:44:42AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
>>
>> > Topics:
>> > - Kconfig, and avoiding excessive configurability in the pursuit of tiny
>> > - Optimizing a kernel for its exact target userspace.
>> > - Examples of shrinking the kernel
>>
>> Something that's partially related here: Making stuff optional
>> reduces attack surface the kernel presents. We're starting to grow
>> more and more CONFIG options to disable syscalls. I'd like to hear
>> peoples reactions on introducing even more optionality in this area.
>
> My first reaction is reducing the attack surface sounds a reasonable
> idea. My second reaction is that the plural in options makes me want to
> run for the hills. Having a sea of options for enabling and disabling
> syscalls gives us the potential for having a set of kernels all with a
> slightly differing ABI as people choose what to enable and disable.
>
> If we do this, I think we should have a small number of options related
> to use case ... say something like a secure router kernel
> CONFIG_SECURE_ROUTER which disables anything a secure router wouldn't
> need.
>
> For the distros we could have an ordinary and a reduced attack surface
> kernel CONFIG_REDUCED_ATTACK_SURFACE.
>
Excellent idea. I'd like to be able to enable both options, for my company's
routers but even on my home servers if possible (ie for a distribution which
is tagged as 'server' distribution).
Guenter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-02 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-02 16:44 [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Kernel tinification: shrinking the kernel and avoiding size regressions Josh Triplett
2014-05-02 17:11 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 17:20 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-02 17:33 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 17:46 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 18:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-02 19:02 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 19:03 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-02 19:33 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-02 19:38 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-02 19:49 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 20:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-02 20:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-02 21:01 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 21:19 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 21:23 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-02 21:36 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 21:27 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-02 21:39 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 22:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 17:18 ` josh
2014-05-06 17:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-09 18:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-09 20:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-09 22:50 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-10 0:23 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-10 0:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-10 3:44 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-03 17:30 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-02 21:56 ` tytso
2014-05-02 20:45 ` Ben Hutchings
2014-05-02 21:03 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-03 13:37 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-03 13:35 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-03 13:32 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-02 19:03 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 19:45 ` Luck, Tony
2014-05-02 21:03 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 21:08 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 21:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-02 21:21 ` Luck, Tony
2014-05-02 21:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-03 1:21 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-07 12:35 ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-09 15:51 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 17:33 ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2014-05-02 17:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-07 11:32 ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-07 16:38 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-02 22:04 ` Jan Kara
2014-05-05 23:45 ` Bird, Tim
2014-05-06 2:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-09 16:22 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-09 16:59 ` Bird, Tim
2014-05-09 17:23 ` josh
2014-05-08 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-12 17:35 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-05-13 16:36 ` Bird, Tim
2014-05-13 18:00 ` josh
2014-05-14 1:04 ` Julia Lawall
2014-08-17 9:45 ` [Ksummit-discuss] tiny.wiki.kernel.org Josh Triplett
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-05-08 16:24 [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Kernel tinification: shrinking the kernel and avoiding size regressions Christoph Lameter
2014-05-09 0:31 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-09 14:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-09 16:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-09 16:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-09 17:21 ` josh
2014-05-09 17:42 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-09 17:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-09 18:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-09 19:02 ` Julia Lawall
2014-05-09 20:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-09 17:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-05-12 18:06 ` Dave Hansen
2014-05-12 20:20 ` Roland Dreier
2014-05-14 2:37 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-15 19:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 20:00 ` Greg KH
2014-05-15 20:29 ` Guenter Roeck
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