From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2 3/4] mm, compaction: add per-zone migration pfn cache for async compaction
Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 13:52:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5368CCE2.2050602@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1405051726210.4720@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On 05/06/2014 02:29 AM, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Mon, 5 May 2014, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>
>> I see, although I would still welcome some numbers to back such change.
>
> It's pretty difficult to capture numbers for this in real-world scenarios
> since it happens rarely (and when it happens, it's very significant
> latency) and without an instrumented kernel that will determine how many
> pageblocks have been skipped. I could create a synthetic example of it in
> the kernel and get numbers for a worst-case scenario with a 64GB zone if
> you'd like, I'm not sure how representative it will be.
>
>> What I still don't like is the removal of the intent of commit 50b5b094e6. You
>> now again call set_pageblock_skip() unconditionally, thus also on pageblocks
>> that async compaction skipped due to being non-MOVABLE. The sync compaction
>> will thus ignore them.
>>
>
> I'm not following you, with this patch there are two cached pfns for the
> migration scanner: one is used for sync and one is used for async. When
> cc->sync == true, both cached pfns are updated (async is not going to
> succeed for a pageblock when sync failed for that pageblock); when
> cc->sync == false, the async cached pfn is updated only and we pick up
> again where we left off for subsequent async compactions. Sync compaction
> will still begin where it last left off and consider these non-MOVABLE
> pageblocks.
>
Yeah I understand, the cached pfn's are not the problem. The problem is
that with your patch, set_pageblock_skip() will be called through
update_pageblock_skip() in async compaction, since you removed the
skipped_async_unsuitable variable. So in sync compaction, such pageblock
will be skipped thanks to the isolation_suitable() check which uses
get_pageblock_skip() to read the bit set by the async compaction.
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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2 3/4] mm, compaction: add per-zone migration pfn cache for async compaction
Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 13:52:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5368CCE2.2050602@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1405051726210.4720@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On 05/06/2014 02:29 AM, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Mon, 5 May 2014, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>
>> I see, although I would still welcome some numbers to back such change.
>
> It's pretty difficult to capture numbers for this in real-world scenarios
> since it happens rarely (and when it happens, it's very significant
> latency) and without an instrumented kernel that will determine how many
> pageblocks have been skipped. I could create a synthetic example of it in
> the kernel and get numbers for a worst-case scenario with a 64GB zone if
> you'd like, I'm not sure how representative it will be.
>
>> What I still don't like is the removal of the intent of commit 50b5b094e6. You
>> now again call set_pageblock_skip() unconditionally, thus also on pageblocks
>> that async compaction skipped due to being non-MOVABLE. The sync compaction
>> will thus ignore them.
>>
>
> I'm not following you, with this patch there are two cached pfns for the
> migration scanner: one is used for sync and one is used for async. When
> cc->sync == true, both cached pfns are updated (async is not going to
> succeed for a pageblock when sync failed for that pageblock); when
> cc->sync == false, the async cached pfn is updated only and we pick up
> again where we left off for subsequent async compactions. Sync compaction
> will still begin where it last left off and consider these non-MOVABLE
> pageblocks.
>
Yeah I understand, the cached pfn's are not the problem. The problem is
that with your patch, set_pageblock_skip() will be called through
update_pageblock_skip() in async compaction, since you removed the
skipped_async_unsuitable variable. So in sync compaction, such pageblock
will be skipped thanks to the isolation_suitable() check which uses
get_pageblock_skip() to read the bit set by the async compaction.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-06 11:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 267+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-01 0:45 [patch 1/2] mm, migration: add destination page freeing callback David Rientjes
2014-05-01 0:45 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01 0:45 ` [patch 2/2] mm, compaction: return failed migration target pages back to freelist David Rientjes
2014-05-01 0:45 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01 5:10 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2014-05-01 21:02 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:02 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01 5:08 ` [patch 1/2] mm, migration: add destination page freeing callback Naoya Horiguchi
[not found] ` <5361d71e.236ec20a.1b3d.ffffc8aeSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2014-05-01 21:02 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:02 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:35 ` [patch v2 1/4] " David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:35 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:35 ` [patch v2 2/4] mm, compaction: return failed migration target pages back to freelist David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:35 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-02 10:11 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-02 10:11 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-02 15:23 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 15:23 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 15:26 ` [PATCH] mm/compaction: do not count migratepages when unnecessary Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-06 21:18 ` Naoya Horiguchi
[not found] ` <1399411134-k43fsr0p@n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
2014-05-07 9:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 9:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 15:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/compaction: avoid rescanning pageblocks in isolate_freepages Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 15:27 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-06 22:19 ` Naoya Horiguchi
[not found] ` <1399414778-xakujfb3@n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
2014-05-07 9:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 9:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 15:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/compaction: do not count migratepages when unnecessary Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 15:29 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-01 21:35 ` [patch v2 3/4] mm, compaction: add per-zone migration pfn cache for async compaction David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:35 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-05 9:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-05 9:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-05 9:51 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-05 9:51 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-05 14:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-05 14:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-06 0:29 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-06 0:29 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-06 11:52 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2014-05-06 11:52 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-01 21:35 ` [patch v2 4/4] mm, thp: do not perform sync compaction on pagefault David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:35 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-02 10:22 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-02 10:22 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-02 11:22 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-02 11:22 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-02 11:58 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-02 20:29 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-02 20:29 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-05 14:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-05 14:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-06 8:55 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-06 8:55 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-06 15:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-06 15:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 10:10 ` [patch v2 1/4] mm, migration: add destination page freeing callback Mel Gorman
2014-05-07 2:22 ` [patch v3 1/6] " David Rientjes
2014-05-07 2:22 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 2:22 ` [patch v3 2/6] mm, compaction: return failed migration target pages back to freelist David Rientjes
2014-05-07 2:22 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 14:14 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2014-05-07 21:15 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-07 21:15 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-07 21:21 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 21:21 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-12 8:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12 8:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 21:39 ` Greg Thelen
2014-05-07 21:39 ` Greg Thelen
2014-05-12 8:37 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12 8:37 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 2:22 ` [patch v3 3/6] mm, compaction: add per-zone migration pfn cache for async compaction David Rientjes
2014-05-07 2:22 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 9:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 9:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 20:56 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2014-05-07 2:22 ` [patch v3 4/6] mm, compaction: embed migration mode in compact_control David Rientjes
2014-05-07 2:22 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 9:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 9:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 10:36 ` [patch v4 " David Rientjes
2014-05-07 10:36 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-09 22:03 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-09 22:03 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-07 2:22 ` [patch v3 5/6] mm, thp: avoid excessive compaction latency during fault David Rientjes
2014-05-07 2:22 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 9:39 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-07 9:39 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-08 5:30 ` [patch -mm] mm, thp: avoid excessive compaction latency during fault fix David Rientjes
2014-05-08 5:30 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-13 10:00 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13 10:00 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22 2:49 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-22 2:49 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-22 8:43 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22 8:43 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 2:22 ` [patch v3 6/6] mm, compaction: terminate async compaction when rescheduling David Rientjes
2014-05-07 2:22 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 9:41 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-07 9:41 ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-07 12:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/compaction: do not count migratepages when unnecessary Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 12:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 12:09 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/compaction: avoid rescanning pageblocks in isolate_freepages Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 12:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 21:47 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 21:47 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 22:06 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2014-05-08 5:28 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-08 5:28 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-12 9:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12 9:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13 1:15 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-13 1:15 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-09 15:49 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-05-09 15:49 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-05-19 10:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-19 10:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22 2:51 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-22 2:51 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 21:44 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/compaction: do not count migratepages when unnecessary David Rientjes
2014-05-07 21:44 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-09 15:48 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-05-09 15:48 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-05-12 9:51 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12 9:51 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 12:10 ` [patch v3 6/6] mm, compaction: terminate async compaction when rescheduling Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 12:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 21:20 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-07 21:20 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-07 21:28 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 21:28 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-08 5:17 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-08 5:17 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-12 14:15 ` [PATCH] mm, compaction: properly signal and act upon lock and need_sched() contention Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12 14:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12 15:34 ` Naoya Horiguchi
[not found] ` <1399908847-ouuxeneo@n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
2014-05-12 15:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12 15:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12 15:53 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2014-05-12 20:28 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-12 20:28 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-13 8:50 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13 8:50 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13 0:44 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-13 0:44 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-13 8:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13 8:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-15 2:21 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-15 2:21 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-16 9:47 ` [PATCH v2] " Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-16 9:47 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-16 17:33 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-05-16 17:33 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-05-19 23:37 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-19 23:37 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-21 14:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-21 14:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-21 20:11 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-21 20:11 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-22 3:20 ` compaction is still too expensive for thp (was: [PATCH v2] mm, compaction: properly signal and act upon lock and need_sched() contention) David Rientjes
2014-05-22 3:20 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-22 8:10 ` compaction is still too expensive for thp Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22 8:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22 8:55 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-22 8:55 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-22 12:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22 12:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 0:29 ` [patch -mm 1/3] mm: rename allocflags_to_migratetype for clarity David Rientjes
2014-06-04 0:29 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 0:29 ` [patch -mm 2/3] mm, compaction: pass gfp mask to compact_control David Rientjes
2014-06-04 0:29 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 0:30 ` [patch -mm 3/3] mm, compaction: avoid compacting memory for thp if pageblock cannot become free David Rientjes
2014-06-04 0:30 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 11:04 ` Mel Gorman
2014-06-04 11:04 ` Mel Gorman
2014-06-04 22:02 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 22:02 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 16:07 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:07 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] mm, compaction: periodically drop lock and restore IRQs in scanners Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] mm, compaction: skip rechecks when lock was already held Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 23:46 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 23:46 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 16:11 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] mm, compaction: remember position within pageblock in free pages scanner Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] mm, compaction: skip buddy pages by their order in the migrate scanner Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05 0:02 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05 0:02 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05 9:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05 9:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05 21:30 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05 21:30 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-06 7:20 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-06 7:20 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-09 9:09 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-09 9:09 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-09 11:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-09 11:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-09 22:25 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-09 22:25 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-10 7:26 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-10 7:26 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-10 23:54 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-10 23:54 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-11 12:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-11 12:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-12 0:21 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-12 0:21 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-12 11:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-12 11:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-12 21:48 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-12 21:48 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 16:11 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] mm, compaction: try to capture the just-created high-order freepage Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] mm, compaction: don't migrate in blocks that cannot be fully compacted in async direct compaction Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05 0:08 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05 0:08 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05 15:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05 15:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05 21:38 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05 21:38 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-06 7:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-06 7:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-09 9:06 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-09 9:06 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-12 12:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-12 12:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] mm, compaction: periodically drop lock and restore IRQs in scanners David Rientjes
2014-06-04 23:39 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05 9:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05 9:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22 23:49 ` [PATCH v2] mm, compaction: properly signal and act upon lock and need_sched() contention Kevin Hilman
2014-05-22 23:49 ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-23 2:48 ` Shawn Guo
2014-05-23 2:48 ` Shawn Guo
2014-05-23 2:48 ` Shawn Guo
2014-05-23 8:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-23 8:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-23 8:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-23 10:49 ` Shawn Guo
2014-05-23 10:49 ` Shawn Guo
2014-05-23 10:49 ` Shawn Guo
2014-05-23 15:07 ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-23 15:07 ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-23 15:07 ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-30 16:59 ` Stephen Warren
2014-05-30 16:59 ` Stephen Warren
2014-05-30 16:59 ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-02 13:35 ` Fabio Estevam
2014-06-02 13:35 ` Fabio Estevam
2014-06-02 13:35 ` Fabio Estevam
2014-06-02 14:33 ` [PATCH -mm] mm, compaction: properly signal and act upon lock and need_sched() contention - fix Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-02 14:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-02 14:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-02 15:18 ` Fabio Estevam
2014-06-02 15:18 ` Fabio Estevam
2014-06-02 15:18 ` Fabio Estevam
2014-06-02 20:09 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-02 20:09 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-02 20:09 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-02 13:16 ` [patch 1/2] mm, migration: add destination page freeing callback Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 13:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
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