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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jonas Jensen <jonas.jensen@gmail.com>,
	Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@iguana.be>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/5] watchdog: Add API to trigger reboots
Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 06:01:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <536A2EAB.4000605@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1399463549.4536.10.camel@weser.hi.pengutronix.de>

On 05/07/2014 04:52 AM, Lucas Stach wrote:
> Hi Guenter,
>
> Am Freitag, den 02.05.2014, 21:29 -0700 schrieb Guenter Roeck:
>> On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 06:22:43PM -0700, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>>> Hi Guenter,
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 08:41:29AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>> Some hardware implements reboot through its watchdog hardware,
>>>> for example by triggering a watchdog timeout. Platform specific
>>>> code starts to spread into watchdog drivers, typically by setting
>>>> pointers to a callback functions which is then called from the
>>>> platform reset handler.
>>>>
>>>> To simplify code and provide a unified API to trigger reboots by
>>>> watchdog drivers, provide a single API to trigger such reboots
>>>> through the watchdog subsystem.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
>>>> ---
>>>>   drivers/watchdog/watchdog_core.c |   17 +++++++++++++++++
>>>>   include/linux/watchdog.h         |   11 +++++++++++
>>>>   2 files changed, 28 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/watchdog/watchdog_core.c b/drivers/watchdog/watchdog_core.c
>>>> index cec9b55..4ec6e2f 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/watchdog/watchdog_core.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/watchdog/watchdog_core.c
>>>> @@ -43,6 +43,17 @@
>>>>   static DEFINE_IDA(watchdog_ida);
>>>>   static struct class *watchdog_class;
>>>>
>>>> +static struct watchdog_device *wdd_reboot_dev;
>>>> +
>>>> +void watchdog_do_reboot(enum reboot_mode mode, const char *cmd)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	if (wdd_reboot_dev) {
>>>> +		if (wdd_reboot_dev->ops->reboot)
>>>> +			wdd_reboot_dev->ops->reboot(wdd_reboot_dev, mode, cmd);
>>>> +	}
>>>> +}
>>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(watchdog_do_reboot);
>>>> +
>>>>   static void watchdog_check_min_max_timeout(struct watchdog_device *wdd)
>>>>   {
>>>>   	/*
>>>> @@ -162,6 +173,9 @@ int watchdog_register_device(struct watchdog_device *wdd)
>>>>   		return ret;
>>>>   	}
>>>>
>>>> +	if (wdd->ops->reboot)
>>>> +		wdd_reboot_dev = wdd;
>>>> +
>>>
>>> Overall, it looks really great, but I guess we can make it a
>>> list. Otherwise, we might end up in a situation where we could not
>>> reboot anymore, like this one for example:
>>>    - a first watchdog is probed, registers a reboot function
>>>    - a second watchdog is probed, registers a reboot function that
>>>      overwrites the first one.
>>>    - then, the second watchdog disappears for some reason, and the
>>>      reboot is set to NULL
>>>
>> I thought about that, but how likely (or unlikely) is that to ever happen ?
>> So I figured it is not worth the effort, and would just add complexity without
>> real gain. We could always add the list later if we ever encounter a situation
>> where two watchdogs in the same system provide a reboot callback.
>>
>
> While this is not directly related to the issue you are fixing with this
> series, I would like to have it considered when talking about a watchdog
> system reboot API.
>
> On i.MX we have the same situation where we have to reboot through the
> SoC watchdog. This works, but may leave the external components of the
> system (those not integrated in the SoC) in an undefined state. So if we
> have a PMIC with integrated watchdog we would rather like to this one to
> reboot the system, as it the reset is then much more closer to a
> power-on-reset.
>
> This means we could have multiple watchdogs in the system, where we
> really want a specific one (maybe designated through a DT property) to
> do the reset. This isn't compatible with the "last watchdog that
> registers a handler wins the system reset" logic in your patch.
>

Wouldn't the order in which watchdogs are configured in dt define that ?
The last one wins.

Thanks,
Guenter


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: linux@roeck-us.net (Guenter Roeck)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 1/5] watchdog: Add API to trigger reboots
Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 06:01:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <536A2EAB.4000605@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1399463549.4536.10.camel@weser.hi.pengutronix.de>

On 05/07/2014 04:52 AM, Lucas Stach wrote:
> Hi Guenter,
>
> Am Freitag, den 02.05.2014, 21:29 -0700 schrieb Guenter Roeck:
>> On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 06:22:43PM -0700, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>>> Hi Guenter,
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 08:41:29AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>> Some hardware implements reboot through its watchdog hardware,
>>>> for example by triggering a watchdog timeout. Platform specific
>>>> code starts to spread into watchdog drivers, typically by setting
>>>> pointers to a callback functions which is then called from the
>>>> platform reset handler.
>>>>
>>>> To simplify code and provide a unified API to trigger reboots by
>>>> watchdog drivers, provide a single API to trigger such reboots
>>>> through the watchdog subsystem.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
>>>> ---
>>>>   drivers/watchdog/watchdog_core.c |   17 +++++++++++++++++
>>>>   include/linux/watchdog.h         |   11 +++++++++++
>>>>   2 files changed, 28 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/watchdog/watchdog_core.c b/drivers/watchdog/watchdog_core.c
>>>> index cec9b55..4ec6e2f 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/watchdog/watchdog_core.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/watchdog/watchdog_core.c
>>>> @@ -43,6 +43,17 @@
>>>>   static DEFINE_IDA(watchdog_ida);
>>>>   static struct class *watchdog_class;
>>>>
>>>> +static struct watchdog_device *wdd_reboot_dev;
>>>> +
>>>> +void watchdog_do_reboot(enum reboot_mode mode, const char *cmd)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	if (wdd_reboot_dev) {
>>>> +		if (wdd_reboot_dev->ops->reboot)
>>>> +			wdd_reboot_dev->ops->reboot(wdd_reboot_dev, mode, cmd);
>>>> +	}
>>>> +}
>>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(watchdog_do_reboot);
>>>> +
>>>>   static void watchdog_check_min_max_timeout(struct watchdog_device *wdd)
>>>>   {
>>>>   	/*
>>>> @@ -162,6 +173,9 @@ int watchdog_register_device(struct watchdog_device *wdd)
>>>>   		return ret;
>>>>   	}
>>>>
>>>> +	if (wdd->ops->reboot)
>>>> +		wdd_reboot_dev = wdd;
>>>> +
>>>
>>> Overall, it looks really great, but I guess we can make it a
>>> list. Otherwise, we might end up in a situation where we could not
>>> reboot anymore, like this one for example:
>>>    - a first watchdog is probed, registers a reboot function
>>>    - a second watchdog is probed, registers a reboot function that
>>>      overwrites the first one.
>>>    - then, the second watchdog disappears for some reason, and the
>>>      reboot is set to NULL
>>>
>> I thought about that, but how likely (or unlikely) is that to ever happen ?
>> So I figured it is not worth the effort, and would just add complexity without
>> real gain. We could always add the list later if we ever encounter a situation
>> where two watchdogs in the same system provide a reboot callback.
>>
>
> While this is not directly related to the issue you are fixing with this
> series, I would like to have it considered when talking about a watchdog
> system reboot API.
>
> On i.MX we have the same situation where we have to reboot through the
> SoC watchdog. This works, but may leave the external components of the
> system (those not integrated in the SoC) in an undefined state. So if we
> have a PMIC with integrated watchdog we would rather like to this one to
> reboot the system, as it the reset is then much more closer to a
> power-on-reset.
>
> This means we could have multiple watchdogs in the system, where we
> really want a specific one (maybe designated through a DT property) to
> do the reset. This isn't compatible with the "last watchdog that
> registers a handler wins the system reset" logic in your patch.
>

Wouldn't the order in which watchdogs are configured in dt define that ?
The last one wins.

Thanks,
Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-07 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-01 15:41 [RFC PATCH 0/5] watchdog: Add reboot API Guenter Roeck
2014-05-01 15:41 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-01 15:41 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] watchdog: Add API to trigger reboots Guenter Roeck
2014-05-01 15:41   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-02 10:01   ` Will Deacon
2014-05-02 10:01     ` Will Deacon
2014-05-02 13:22     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-02 13:22       ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-03  1:22   ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-03  1:22     ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-03  4:29     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-03  4:29       ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-05  4:27       ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-05  4:27         ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-07 11:52       ` Lucas Stach
2014-05-07 11:52         ` Lucas Stach
2014-05-07 13:01         ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2014-05-07 13:01           ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-07 15:49           ` Lucas Stach
2014-05-07 15:49             ` Lucas Stach
2014-05-07 19:15           ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-07 19:15             ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-05 18:36   ` Felipe Balbi
2014-05-05 18:36     ` Felipe Balbi
2014-05-05 19:45     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-05 19:45       ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-01 15:41 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] arm64: Support reboot through watchdog subsystem Guenter Roeck
2014-05-01 15:41   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-01 15:41 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] arm: " Guenter Roeck
2014-05-01 15:41   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-01 15:41 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] watchdog: moxart: Register reboot handler with " Guenter Roeck
2014-05-01 15:41   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-01 15:41 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] watchdog: sunxi: " Guenter Roeck
2014-05-01 15:41   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-05 18:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] watchdog: Add reboot API Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-05 18:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-06 14:29 ` Jonas Jensen
2014-05-06 14:29   ` Jonas Jensen
2014-05-07 11:01 ` Heiko Stübner
2014-05-07 11:01   ` Heiko Stübner

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