Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-05-20

Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-05-20

[Otavio Salvador]

Minutes

Attendees
* Anthony Felice
* Daiane Angolini
* Eric Nelson
* Mario Goulart
* Otavio Salvador

Actions
* Mario is going to review the user guide and FAQ to help checking
spelling and more
* Otavio, Daiane and Eric are going to help with Bugzilla entries

Decisions
* Drop Test Form for 1.7
* Once in a month meetings
* Draft of a "Statement of Purpose"

Document
* Motivation
* What is FSL Community BSP
* What the FSL Community BSP is not
* What to expect (production X basic feature

Next meeting
* How to get more people involved in future
* Get sub-maintainers for specific areas
   * Define the sub areas
   * How to get it promoted

If someone want to watch it, it is available at:

https://plus.google.com/events/ccm5pkqcfhs20bv4bpn4shorfjc?authkey=CLK6m8nop7_YxgE

-- 
Otavio Salvador                             O.S. Systems
http://www.ossystems.com.br        http://code.ossystems.com.br
Mobile: +55 (53) 9981-7854            Mobile: +1 (347) 903-9750

Re: Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-05-20

[Daiane Angolini]

> If someone want to watch it, it is available at:
>
> https://plus.google.com/events/ccm5pkqcfhs20bv4bpn4shorfjc?authkey=CLK6m8nop7_YxgE

I don´t like the idea of having my voice recorded on Internet forever.

Would you mind to delete this video in one or two weeks?

For the next meeting, we must understand how to use Hangout Air properly :P

Thanks guys
Daiane

Re: Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-05-20

[Otavio Salvador]

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Daiane Angolini <daiane.list@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If someone want to watch it, it is available at:
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/events/ccm5pkqcfhs20bv4bpn4shorfjc?authkey=CLK6m8nop7_YxgE
>
> I don´t like the idea of having my voice recorded on Internet forever.
>
> Would you mind to delete this video in one or two weeks?
>
> For the next meeting, we must understand how to use Hangout Air properly :P

Fine with me. :-)

-- 
Otavio Salvador                             O.S. Systems
http://www.ossystems.com.br        http://code.ossystems.com.br
Mobile: +55 (53) 9981-7854            Mobile: +1 (347) 903-9750

Re: Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-05-20

[Gary Thomas]

On 2014-05-20 13:45, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Minutes
>
> Attendees
> * Anthony Felice
> * Daiane Angolini
> * Eric Nelson
> * Mario Goulart
> * Otavio Salvador
>
> Actions
> * Mario is going to review the user guide and FAQ to help checking
> spelling and more
> * Otavio, Daiane and Eric are going to help with Bugzilla entries
>
> Decisions
> * Drop Test Form for 1.7
> * Once in a month meetings
> * Draft of a "Statement of Purpose"
>
> Document
> * Motivation
> * What is FSL Community BSP
> * What the FSL Community BSP is not
> * What to expect (production X basic feature
>
> Next meeting
> * How to get more people involved in future
> * Get sub-maintainers for specific areas
>     * Define the sub areas
>     * How to get it promoted
>
> If someone want to watch it, it is available at:
>
> https://plus.google.com/events/ccm5pkqcfhs20bv4bpn4shorfjc?authkey=CLK6m8nop7_YxgE
>

Eric,

Can you post [a link] the testing framework you mentioned
since it's not in the minutes and not everyone saw the documents
you guys were working with/against.

Thanks

-- 
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Gary Thomas                 |  Consulting for the
MLB Associates              |    Embedded world
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Re: Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-05-20

[Eric Nelson]

Hi Gary,

On 05/20/2014 12:59 PM, Gary Thomas wrote:
> On 2014-05-20 13:45, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>> Minutes
>>
>> Attendees
>> * Anthony Felice
>> * Daiane Angolini
>> * Eric Nelson
>> * Mario Goulart
>> * Otavio Salvador
>>
>> Actions
>> * Mario is going to review the user guide and FAQ to help checking
>> spelling and more
>> * Otavio, Daiane and Eric are going to help with Bugzilla entries
>>
>> Decisions
>> * Drop Test Form for 1.7
>> * Once in a month meetings
>> * Draft of a "Statement of Purpose"
>>
>> Document
>> * Motivation
>> * What is FSL Community BSP
>> * What the FSL Community BSP is not
>> * What to expect (production X basic feature
>>
>> Next meeting
>> * How to get more people involved in future
>> * Get sub-maintainers for specific areas
>>     * Define the sub areas
>>     * How to get it promoted
>>
>> If someone want to watch it, it is available at:
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/events/ccm5pkqcfhs20bv4bpn4shorfjc?authkey=CLK6m8nop7_YxgE
>>
>>
>
> Eric,
>
> Can you post [a link] the testing framework you mentioned
> since it's not in the minutes and not everyone saw the documents
> you guys were working with/against.
>

It's not a framework, just a check-list for us about what's supported
in a given kernel:

	http://boundarydevices.com/mx6-linux-kernel-3-10-17-beta/

Getting CPU support up and running is generally the easy part, but we
add lots of drivers and details for each of our boards and sometimes
certain bits lag.

Regards,


Eric

Re: Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-05-20

[Gary Thomas]

On 2014-05-20 14:13, Eric Nelson wrote:
> Hi Gary,
>
> On 05/20/2014 12:59 PM, Gary Thomas wrote:
>> On 2014-05-20 13:45, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>>> Minutes
>>>
>>> Attendees
>>> * Anthony Felice
>>> * Daiane Angolini
>>> * Eric Nelson
>>> * Mario Goulart
>>> * Otavio Salvador
>>>
>>> Actions
>>> * Mario is going to review the user guide and FAQ to help checking
>>> spelling and more
>>> * Otavio, Daiane and Eric are going to help with Bugzilla entries
>>>
>>> Decisions
>>> * Drop Test Form for 1.7
>>> * Once in a month meetings
>>> * Draft of a "Statement of Purpose"
>>>
>>> Document
>>> * Motivation
>>> * What is FSL Community BSP
>>> * What the FSL Community BSP is not
>>> * What to expect (production X basic feature
>>>
>>> Next meeting
>>> * How to get more people involved in future
>>> * Get sub-maintainers for specific areas
>>>     * Define the sub areas
>>>     * How to get it promoted
>>>
>>> If someone want to watch it, it is available at:
>>>
>>> https://plus.google.com/events/ccm5pkqcfhs20bv4bpn4shorfjc?authkey=CLK6m8nop7_YxgE
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Can you post [a link] the testing framework you mentioned
>> since it's not in the minutes and not everyone saw the documents
>> you guys were working with/against.
>>
>
> It's not a framework, just a check-list for us about what's supported
> in a given kernel:
>
>      http://boundarydevices.com/mx6-linux-kernel-3-10-17-beta/
>
> Getting CPU support up and running is generally the easy part, but we
> add lots of drivers and details for each of our boards and sometimes
> certain bits lag.

That's fine - this looks like a good thing to point the
"QA" folks (normally, that's me!) at for any given target.

Thanks

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------
Gary Thomas                 |  Consulting for the
MLB Associates              |    Embedded world
------------------------------------------------------------

Re: Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-05-20

[zhenhua.luo]

Hi Otavio and all, 

I have watched the record video, the meeting is very helpful for quality improvement and global collaboration of FSL Yocto community SDK/BSP. 

Following is my suggestion.
* Adjust the meeting time that is workable for China attendees 
* Add the QorIQ SDK(meta-fsl-ppc) in the FSL community BSP Release Notes
* Add the Layerscape SDK info in the FSL community BSP Release Notes when the LS recipes are available in meta-fsl-arm 
* Add "What's New" section in the Release Notes to indicate the new features/new boards/bug fixes/etc in current release
* Add the guide on how to get the BSP in Release Notes. 


Best Regards,

Zhenhua

> -----Original Message-----
> From: meta-freescale-bounces@yoctoproject.org [mailto:meta-freescale-
> bounces@yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of Otavio Salvador
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:46 AM
> To: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org
> Subject: [meta-freescale] Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-
> 05-20
> 
> Minutes
> 
> Attendees
> * Anthony Felice
> * Daiane Angolini
> * Eric Nelson
> * Mario Goulart
> * Otavio Salvador
> 
> Actions
> * Mario is going to review the user guide and FAQ to help checking
> spelling and more
> * Otavio, Daiane and Eric are going to help with Bugzilla entries
> 
> Decisions
> * Drop Test Form for 1.7
> * Once in a month meetings
> * Draft of a "Statement of Purpose"
> 
> Document
> * Motivation
> * What is FSL Community BSP
> * What the FSL Community BSP is not
> * What to expect (production X basic feature
> 
> Next meeting
> * How to get more people involved in future
> * Get sub-maintainers for specific areas
>    * Define the sub areas
>    * How to get it promoted
> 
> If someone want to watch it, it is available at:
> 
> https://plus.google.com/events/ccm5pkqcfhs20bv4bpn4shorfjc?authkey=CLK6m8
> nop7_YxgE
> 
> --
> Otavio Salvador                             O.S. Systems
> http://www.ossystems.com.br        http://code.ossystems.com.br
> Mobile: +55 (53) 9981-7854            Mobile: +1 (347) 903-9750
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Re: Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-05-20

[Daiane Angolini]

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:48 AM, zhenhua.luo@freescale.com
<zhenhua.luo@freescale.com> wrote:
> Hi Otavio and all,
>
> I have watched the record video, the meeting is very helpful for quality improvement and global collaboration of FSL Yocto community SDK/BSP.

Besides the fact that my voice is all over the globe and it can be
used against me when I become a Hollywood celebrity. This hangout air
with youtube recording was a pretty good solution for a problem that
we didn't know we have :D

Next time, we must make sure people with the link *can* enter the
discussion without a additional hangout
(Otavio, let's try this before the next meeting)

>
> Following is my suggestion.
> * Adjust the meeting time that is workable for China attendees

#agree

> * Add the QorIQ SDK(meta-fsl-ppc) in the FSL community BSP Release Notes

#agree!!!!

But, you can imagine that for me it's very difficult to realize *how*
to do this, right? We can discuss offline or you can propose a patch.
What do you think?

> * Add the Layerscape SDK info in the FSL community BSP Release Notes when the LS recipes are available in meta-fsl-arm
> * Add "What's New" section in the Release Notes to indicate the new features/new boards/bug fixes/etc in current release

I loved this idea! can we start with this in 1.7 release only? (as I'm
still working on some 1.6 minor changes)

> * Add the guide on how to get the BSP in Release Notes.

Do you know https://github.com/Freescale?

Wait, when I download using repo I don't have meta-fsl-ppc inside my
source folder! We need to discuss how to get everything together ;-)

Daiane

Re: Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-05-20

[zhenhua.luo]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: angolini@gmail.com [mailto:angolini@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daiane
> Angolini
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:06 PM
> 
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:48 AM, zhenhua.luo@freescale.com
> <zhenhua.luo@freescale.com> wrote:
> > Hi Otavio and all,
> >
> > I have watched the record video, the meeting is very helpful for
> quality improvement and global collaboration of FSL Yocto community
> SDK/BSP.
> 
> Besides the fact that my voice is all over the globe and it can be used
> against me when I become a Hollywood celebrity. This hangout air with
> youtube recording was a pretty good solution for a problem that we didn't
> know we have :D
> 
> Next time, we must make sure people with the link *can* enter the
> discussion without a additional hangout (Otavio, let's try this before
> the next meeting)
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] The short guide of how to attend the meeting can be given in the meeting invitation, it is helpful for attendees, especially for the new attendees. 

> > Following is my suggestion.
> > * Adjust the meeting time that is workable for China attendees
> 
> #agree
> 
> > * Add the QorIQ SDK(meta-fsl-ppc) in the FSL community BSP Release
> > Notes
> 
> #agree!!!!
> 
> But, you can imagine that for me it's very difficult to realize *how* to
> do this, right? 
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] Understand. 

> We can discuss offline or you can propose a patch. What do you think?
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] I can submit the patch for review firstly, and we can have more discussion if needed, does it make sense?
	BTW, is there guide on how to submit the patch for Release Notes?

> > * Add the Layerscape SDK info in the FSL community BSP Release Notes
> > when the LS recipes are available in meta-fsl-arm
> > * Add "What's New" section in the Release Notes to indicate the new
> > features/new boards/bug fixes/etc in current release
> 
> I loved this idea! can we start with this in 1.7 release only? (as I'm
> still working on some 1.6 minor changes)
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] OK for me. 
 
> > * Add the guide on how to get the BSP in Release Notes.
> 
> Do you know https://github.com/Freescale?
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] Sure, I know the link. I think it is necessary to mention it in the Release Notes for users who don't know the link. :)-

> Wait, when I download using repo I don't have meta-fsl-ppc inside my
> source folder! We need to discuss how to get everything together ;-)
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] We have two options.
	1. Adding meta-fsl-ppc layer in the repo manifest file(default.xml) together with i.MX layers, and enhance the setup-environment script to support FSL ppc targets. 
	2. Create separated branches for QorIQ SDK and i.MX BSP in fsl-community-bsp-platform, the setup-environment script needs to be enhanced. 
	Thoughts?


Best Regards,

Zhenhua

Re: Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-05-20

[Daiane Angolini]

I´m sorry for the delay... yesterday was a busy day.

>> But, you can imagine that for me it's very difficult to realize *how* to
>> do this, right?
> [Luo Zhenhua-B19537] Understand.
>
>> We can discuss offline or you can propose a patch. What do you think?
> [Luo Zhenhua-B19537] I can submit the patch for review firstly, and we can have more discussion if needed, does it make sense?
>         BTW, is there guide on how to submit the patch for Release Notes?

No, the guide is: git clone -> change -> send patch with
--subject-prefix=Documentation][PATCH

=P

And then we can discuss whatever is needed.
(or we can discuss offline, to avoid noise, if you prefer)

>> > * Add the guide on how to get the BSP in Release Notes.
>>
>> Do you know https://github.com/Freescale?
> [Luo Zhenhua-B19537] Sure, I know the link. I think it is necessary to mention it in the Release Notes for users who don't know the link. :)-
>

Yes, I understand. But I don´t think Release Notes is the right place
to add *instructions*. Maybe a cross reference.
I prefer people landing in github.io them landing in RN directly

And, my bad, I pasted the wrong URL I was referencing (sorry)

The one I intended to paste is http://freescale.github.io/
(our landing page)


>> Wait, when I download using repo I don't have meta-fsl-ppc inside my
>> source folder! We need to discuss how to get everything together ;-)
> [Luo Zhenhua-B19537] We have two options.
>         1. Adding meta-fsl-ppc layer in the repo manifest file(default.xml) together with i.MX layers, and enhance the setup-environment script to support FSL ppc targets.

together?

Can both layers act *together* today?
(sorry, i´m asking because I haven´t ever tested it)

>         2. Create separated branches for QorIQ SDK and i.MX BSP in fsl-community-bsp-platform, the setup-environment script needs to be enhanced.
>         Thoughts?

I saw you sent patches. Let´s work with them

Daiane

Re: Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in 2014-05-20

[zhenhua.luo]

Thanks for your comments, Daiane. 

We can have further discussion in the other thread initialized by Otavio. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: angolini@gmail.com [mailto:angolini@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daiane
> Angolini
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:40 PM
> To: Luo Zhenhua-B19537
> Cc: Otavio Salvador; meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org; Weng White-B18292;
> Schmitt Richard-B43082
> Subject: Re: [meta-freescale] Minutes of FSL Community BSP Meeting in
> 2014-05-20
> 
> I´m sorry for the delay... yesterday was a busy day.
> 
> >> But, you can imagine that for me it's very difficult to realize *how*
> >> to do this, right?
> > [Luo Zhenhua-B19537] Understand.
> >
> >> We can discuss offline or you can propose a patch. What do you think?
> > [Luo Zhenhua-B19537] I can submit the patch for review firstly, and we
> can have more discussion if needed, does it make sense?
> >         BTW, is there guide on how to submit the patch for Release
> Notes?
> 
> No, the guide is: git clone -> change -> send patch with --subject-
> prefix=Documentation][PATCH
> 
> =P
> 
> And then we can discuss whatever is needed.
> (or we can discuss offline, to avoid noise, if you prefer)
> 
> >> > * Add the guide on how to get the BSP in Release Notes.
> >>
> >> Do you know https://github.com/Freescale?
> > [Luo Zhenhua-B19537] Sure, I know the link. I think it is necessary to
> > mention it in the Release Notes for users who don't know the link. :)-
> >
> 
> Yes, I understand. But I don´t think Release Notes is the right place to
> add *instructions*. Maybe a cross reference.
> I prefer people landing in github.io them landing in RN directly
> 
> And, my bad, I pasted the wrong URL I was referencing (sorry)
> 
> The one I intended to paste is http://freescale.github.io/ (our landing
> page)
> 
> 
> >> Wait, when I download using repo I don't have meta-fsl-ppc inside my
> >> source folder! We need to discuss how to get everything together ;-)
> > [Luo Zhenhua-B19537] We have two options.
> >         1. Adding meta-fsl-ppc layer in the repo manifest
> file(default.xml) together with i.MX layers, and enhance the setup-
> environment script to support FSL ppc targets.
> 
> together?
> 
> Can both layers act *together* today?
> (sorry, i´m asking because I haven´t ever tested it)
> 
> >         2. Create separated branches for QorIQ SDK and i.MX BSP in fsl-
> community-bsp-platform, the setup-environment script needs to be enhanced.
> >         Thoughts?
> 
> I saw you sent patches. Let´s work with them
> 
> Daiane