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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] kvm: Enable -cpu option to hide KVM
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 17:55:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <538C9E60.4040501@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1401715821.9207.20.camel@ul30vt.home>

Il 02/06/2014 15:30, Alex Williamson ha scritto:
> Then they'll be pissing off more users and driving them to AMD by doing
> so.  In any case, having the ability to hide the hypervisor seems to
> stand on it's own.  What if we want to test whether a guest behavior is
> the result of a paravirtual interface?  What if a user wants to hide the
> hypervisor in order to further reduce the exposure surface to the VM?
> There are reasons beyond an arms race with Nvidia to want a feature like
> this.  Thanks,

I totally agree with you.

This doesn't mean that nVidia doesn't deserve some bad press for 
starting this kind of arms race, of course. :)

Paolo

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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] kvm: Enable -cpu option to hide KVM
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 17:55:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <538C9E60.4040501@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1401715821.9207.20.camel@ul30vt.home>

Il 02/06/2014 15:30, Alex Williamson ha scritto:
> Then they'll be pissing off more users and driving them to AMD by doing
> so.  In any case, having the ability to hide the hypervisor seems to
> stand on it's own.  What if we want to test whether a guest behavior is
> the result of a paravirtual interface?  What if a user wants to hide the
> hypervisor in order to further reduce the exposure surface to the VM?
> There are reasons beyond an arms race with Nvidia to want a feature like
> this.  Thanks,

I totally agree with you.

This doesn't mean that nVidia doesn't deserve some bad press for 
starting this kind of arms race, of course. :)

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-02 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-01 16:25 [RFC PATCH] kvm: Enable -cpu option to hide KVM Alex Williamson
2014-06-01 16:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2014-06-01 18:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-01 18:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-01 21:11   ` Alex Williamson
2014-06-01 21:11     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2014-06-02  7:09     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-02  7:09       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-02 14:42       ` Alex Williamson
2014-06-02 14:42         ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2014-06-02 15:55         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-02 15:55           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-02 10:32 ` Michael Tokarev
2014-06-02 10:32   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Tokarev
2014-06-02 13:30   ` Alex Williamson
2014-06-02 13:30     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2014-06-02 15:55     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2014-06-02 15:55       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-02 18:01     ` Michael Tokarev
2014-06-02 18:01       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Tokarev
2014-06-02 18:37       ` Alex Williamson
2014-06-02 18:37         ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2014-06-02 19:03       ` Bandan Das
2014-06-02 19:03         ` [Qemu-devel] " Bandan Das
2014-06-02 19:18         ` Alex Williamson
2014-06-02 19:18           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson

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