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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org>,
	Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	kyungmin.park@samsung.com, myungjoo.ham@samsung.com,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] memory: tegra124-emc: Add EMC driver
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:24:47 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53A21FBF.5090806@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140618231410.GG26514@mithrandir>


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On 06/18/2014 05:14 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 04:09:06PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 06/18/2014 04:03 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
...
>>> From what I remember, Mike was fairly strongly opposing the idea of
>>> virtual clocks, but what you're proposing here sounds like it would
>>> assume the existence of virtual clocks. clk_set_rate() per client
>>> doesn't work with the current API as I understand it.
>>>
>>> Or perhaps what you're proposing isn't about the individual clocks at
>>> all but rather about a mechanism to express constraints for a set of
>>> clocks?
>>
>> This doesn't have anything to do with virtual clocks. As you mention,
>> it's just about constraints.
>>
>> One user of clock "cpu" wants min rate 216MHz. Another wants max rate
>> 1GHz. cpufreq will request some rate between the 2, or be capped to
>> those limits. These set of imposed constraints would need to be stored
>> per client of the clock, not per HW clock, since many clients could set
>> different max rates (e.g. thermal throttle 1.5GHz due to temperature,
>> CPU policy 1GHz due to the user selecting low CPU power, etc.)
>>
>> Similarly for audio, of there are N clients of 1 clock/PLL, and they
>> each want the PLL to run at a different rate, something needs to detect
>> that and deny it.
> 
> I'm wondering how this should work with the current API. Could the clock
> core be modified to return a per-client struct clk * that references the
> hardware clock internally? Or do we need to add a new API?

I would assume the we can just change struct clk and hide the details
from any driver. Hopefully only clock-core and clock-drivers would need
any changes.


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From: swarren@wwwdotorg.org (Stephen Warren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 1/4] memory: tegra124-emc: Add EMC driver
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:24:47 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53A21FBF.5090806@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140618231410.GG26514@mithrandir>

On 06/18/2014 05:14 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 04:09:06PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 06/18/2014 04:03 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
...
>>> From what I remember, Mike was fairly strongly opposing the idea of
>>> virtual clocks, but what you're proposing here sounds like it would
>>> assume the existence of virtual clocks. clk_set_rate() per client
>>> doesn't work with the current API as I understand it.
>>>
>>> Or perhaps what you're proposing isn't about the individual clocks at
>>> all but rather about a mechanism to express constraints for a set of
>>> clocks?
>>
>> This doesn't have anything to do with virtual clocks. As you mention,
>> it's just about constraints.
>>
>> One user of clock "cpu" wants min rate 216MHz. Another wants max rate
>> 1GHz. cpufreq will request some rate between the 2, or be capped to
>> those limits. These set of imposed constraints would need to be stored
>> per client of the clock, not per HW clock, since many clients could set
>> different max rates (e.g. thermal throttle 1.5GHz due to temperature,
>> CPU policy 1GHz due to the user selecting low CPU power, etc.)
>>
>> Similarly for audio, of there are N clients of 1 clock/PLL, and they
>> each want the PLL to run at a different rate, something needs to detect
>> that and deny it.
> 
> I'm wondering how this should work with the current API. Could the clock
> core be modified to return a per-client struct clk * that references the
> hardware clock internally? Or do we need to add a new API?

I would assume the we can just change struct clk and hide the details
from any driver. Hopefully only clock-core and clock-drivers would need
any changes.

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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
Cc: Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org>,
	myungjoo.ham@samsung.com, kyungmin.park@samsung.com,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] memory: tegra124-emc: Add EMC driver
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:24:47 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53A21FBF.5090806@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140618231410.GG26514@mithrandir>

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On 06/18/2014 05:14 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 04:09:06PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 06/18/2014 04:03 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
...
>>> From what I remember, Mike was fairly strongly opposing the idea of
>>> virtual clocks, but what you're proposing here sounds like it would
>>> assume the existence of virtual clocks. clk_set_rate() per client
>>> doesn't work with the current API as I understand it.
>>>
>>> Or perhaps what you're proposing isn't about the individual clocks at
>>> all but rather about a mechanism to express constraints for a set of
>>> clocks?
>>
>> This doesn't have anything to do with virtual clocks. As you mention,
>> it's just about constraints.
>>
>> One user of clock "cpu" wants min rate 216MHz. Another wants max rate
>> 1GHz. cpufreq will request some rate between the 2, or be capped to
>> those limits. These set of imposed constraints would need to be stored
>> per client of the clock, not per HW clock, since many clients could set
>> different max rates (e.g. thermal throttle 1.5GHz due to temperature,
>> CPU policy 1GHz due to the user selecting low CPU power, etc.)
>>
>> Similarly for audio, of there are N clients of 1 clock/PLL, and they
>> each want the PLL to run at a different rate, something needs to detect
>> that and deny it.
> 
> I'm wondering how this should work with the current API. Could the clock
> core be modified to return a per-client struct clk * that references the
> hardware clock internally? Or do we need to add a new API?

I would assume the we can just change struct clk and hide the details
from any driver. Hopefully only clock-core and clock-drivers would need
any changes.


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-18 23:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-16 13:35 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Tegra124: EMC scaling Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 13:35 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 13:35 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] memory: tegra124-emc: Add EMC driver Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 13:35   ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 14:03   ` Mikko Perttunen
2014-06-16 14:03     ` Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]   ` <1402925713-25426-2-git-send-email-tomeu.vizoso-ZGY8ohtN/8qB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16 20:02     ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-16 20:02       ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-16 20:02       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]       ` <539F4D44.3070309-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-17 12:16         ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-17 12:16           ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-17 12:16           ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-17 16:15           ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-17 16:15             ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-17 16:59             ` Mikko Perttunen
2014-06-17 16:59               ` Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]             ` <53A069B6.6070902-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-18 17:23               ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-18 17:23                 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-18 17:23                 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-18 17:46                 ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 17:46                   ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 22:03                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 22:03                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 22:03                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 22:09                     ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 22:09                       ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 22:09                       ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 23:14                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 23:14                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 23:14                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 23:24                         ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2014-06-18 23:24                           ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 23:24                           ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 22:00                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 22:00                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 22:00                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 22:19                   ` Stéphane Marchesin
2014-06-18 22:19                     ` Stéphane Marchesin
2014-06-18 22:19                     ` Stéphane Marchesin
2014-06-18 22:33                     ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 22:33                       ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 22:33                       ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 23:20                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 23:20                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-17 22:35           ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-17 22:35             ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-17 22:35             ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18  8:57             ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-06-18  8:57               ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-06-18  8:57               ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-06-16 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] ARM: tegra: Add Tegra124 EMC support Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 13:35   ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-17 22:38   ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-17 22:38     ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-17 22:38     ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-16 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] drm/tegra: Request memory bandwidth for the display controller Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 13:35   ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 20:06   ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-16 20:06     ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-17 22:43     ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-17 22:43       ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-17 22:43       ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-16 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] cpufreq: tegra: Register a minimum EMC frequency based on the CPU clock Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 13:35   ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 14:08   ` Mikko Perttunen
2014-06-16 14:08     ` Mikko Perttunen

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