From: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>
To: Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de>,
David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>,
"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"geirola@gmail.com" <geirola@gmail.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/5] SCTP updates
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 16:30:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53BD6E2A.4050303@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1AA30289-FE48-4E1E-90CF-8E567D8A1031@lurchi.franken.de>
On 07/09/2014 12:12 PM, Michael Tuexen wrote:
> On 09 Jul 2014, at 18:02, David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM> wrote:
>
>> From: Neil Horman
>> ...
>>>> The problem here is deprecation of ancillary data and that's is a lot tougher
>>>> then socket options. In this particular case (SCTP_SNDRCVINFO vs SCTP_RCVINFO),
>>>> I don't think there is any way to deprecate the SCTP_SNDRCVINFO since the event
>>>> enabling it is the same as the one for SCTP_RCVINFO. This was a mistake in the
> I don't think this is true:
> To request SCTP_SNDRCVINFO you use the SCTP_EVENTS option. See
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6458#section-6.2.1
> To request the SCTP_RCVINFO you use the SCTP_RECVRCVINFO option. See
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6458#section-8.1.29
> So the user does different things and the kernel can provide the requested
> information.
This is not very clear, but yes. I've re-re-read the section in question after
sending out that mail and yes this does seem to be the case.
-vlad
>
> Best regards
> Michael
>>>> spec. Ancillary data should not have been enabled using even notification api,
>>>> as it is not an event, but we now have to live with it.
>>>>
>>> Ugh I didn't even consider cmsg type overlap. Thats probably it then, we can't
>>> deprecate it. Though that does call the question up as to how to differentiate
>>> expectations of the data format for each cmsg, if they use the same type. Does
>>> the SCTP_RCVINFO data struct overlay the SNDRCVINFO struct exactly? (sorry I've
>>> not checked myself yet).
>>
>> Not from what I remember from when I read that RFC.
>> I think the lengths are different enough to determine which is which.
>>
>> That RFC (I've forgotten the number) looks like an entire bag of poo
>> that should be ignored...
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
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From: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>
To: Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de>,
David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>,
"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"geirola@gmail.com" <geirola@gmail.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/5] SCTP updates
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:30:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53BD6E2A.4050303@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1AA30289-FE48-4E1E-90CF-8E567D8A1031@lurchi.franken.de>
On 07/09/2014 12:12 PM, Michael Tuexen wrote:
> On 09 Jul 2014, at 18:02, David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM> wrote:
>
>> From: Neil Horman
>> ...
>>>> The problem here is deprecation of ancillary data and that's is a lot tougher
>>>> then socket options. In this particular case (SCTP_SNDRCVINFO vs SCTP_RCVINFO),
>>>> I don't think there is any way to deprecate the SCTP_SNDRCVINFO since the event
>>>> enabling it is the same as the one for SCTP_RCVINFO. This was a mistake in the
> I don't think this is true:
> To request SCTP_SNDRCVINFO you use the SCTP_EVENTS option. See
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6458#section-6.2.1
> To request the SCTP_RCVINFO you use the SCTP_RECVRCVINFO option. See
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6458#section-8.1.29
> So the user does different things and the kernel can provide the requested
> information.
This is not very clear, but yes. I've re-re-read the section in question after
sending out that mail and yes this does seem to be the case.
-vlad
>
> Best regards
> Michael
>>>> spec. Ancillary data should not have been enabled using even notification api,
>>>> as it is not an event, but we now have to live with it.
>>>>
>>> Ugh I didn't even consider cmsg type overlap. Thats probably it then, we can't
>>> deprecate it. Though that does call the question up as to how to differentiate
>>> expectations of the data format for each cmsg, if they use the same type. Does
>>> the SCTP_RCVINFO data struct overlay the SNDRCVINFO struct exactly? (sorry I've
>>> not checked myself yet).
>>
>> Not from what I remember from when I read that RFC.
>> I think the lengths are different enough to determine which is which.
>>
>> That RFC (I've forgotten the number) looks like an entire bag of poo
>> that should be ignored...
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-sctp" in
>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-09 16:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-04 21:05 [PATCH net-next 0/5] SCTP updates Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-04 21:05 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-04 21:05 ` [PATCH net-next 1/5] net: sctp: fix information leaks in ulpevent layer Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-04 21:05 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-04 21:05 ` [PATCH net-next 5/5] net: sctp: implement rfc6458, 8.1.31. SCTP_DEFAULT_SNDINFO support Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-04 21:05 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-08 11:14 ` [PATCH net-next 0/5] SCTP updates Neil Horman
2014-07-08 11:14 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-08 14:05 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-08 14:05 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-08 14:41 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-08 14:41 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-09 9:57 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-09 9:57 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-09 10:49 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-09 10:49 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-09 11:12 ` David Laight
2014-07-09 11:12 ` David Laight
2014-07-09 13:28 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-09 13:28 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-09 15:13 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-09 15:13 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-09 15:25 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-09 15:25 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-09 15:41 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-09 15:41 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-09 15:36 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-07-09 15:36 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-07-09 15:44 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-09 15:44 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-09 16:02 ` David Laight
2014-07-09 16:02 ` David Laight
2014-07-09 16:12 ` Michael Tuexen
2014-07-09 16:12 ` Michael Tuexen
2014-07-09 16:30 ` Vlad Yasevich [this message]
2014-07-09 16:30 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-07-09 16:32 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-07-09 16:32 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-07-09 18:35 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-09 18:35 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-10 9:02 ` David Laight
2014-07-10 9:37 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-10 9:37 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-10 10:57 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-10 10:57 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-10 19:04 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-07-10 19:04 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-07-10 10:55 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-10 10:55 ` Neil Horman
2014-07-09 16:10 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-09 16:10 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-08 21:40 ` David Miller
2014-07-08 21:40 ` David Miller
2014-07-09 7:59 ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-07-09 7:59 ` Daniel Borkmann
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2008-12-20 1:47 [PATCH net-next 0/5]: " Vlad Yasevich
2008-12-20 1:47 ` Vlad Yasevich
2008-12-20 1:47 ` Vlad Yasevich
2008-12-20 1:47 ` Vlad Yasevich
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