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From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Tim Bird <tbird20d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Brian Norris
	<computersforpeace-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Grant Likely
	<grant.likely-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] of/irq: lookup 'interrupts-extended' property first
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:12:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53E2A85A.8030406@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+bK7J7LQq4S70ScSynbLTjNMmP=9n3KD2suYRg9JN+pEv-Y7g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On 08/06/2014 02:50 PM, Tim Bird wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Brian Norris
> <computersforpeace-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 01:42:08PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Brian Norris <computersforpeace-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:00:01AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>> I think it is important that a device tree provide some flexibility on
>>>> kernel versions. We only invented 'interrupts-extended' in Linux 3.13,
>>>> so it's easy to have device trees that could work only on 3.13+.
>>>>
>>>> Typically, we might say that new features require new kernels, but this
>>>> is a very basic piece of the DT infrastructure. In our case, we have
>>>> hardware whose basic features can be supported by a single interrupt
>>>> parent, and so we used the 'interrupts' property pre-3.13. But when we
>>>> want to add some power management features, there's an additional
>>>> interrupt parent. Under the current DT binding, we have to switch over
>>>> to using 'interrupts-extended' exclusively, and thus we must have a
>>>> completely new DTB for >=3.13, and this DTB no longer works with the old
>>>> kernels.
>>>
>>> "Must have" to enable the new features?
>>
>> Yes. The new feature requires an additional interrupt parent, and so it
>> requires interrupts-extended.
> 
> Hold on there.  What about interrupt-map?  That was the traditional DT
> feature for
> supporting multi-parented interrupts.  Why couldn't the feature have been added
> using that instead of interrupts-extended?

As far as I read it from the ePAPR specification, you have a good point
here, it looks like 'interrupt-map' could have been used as-is instead
of 'interrupts-extended'. In fact it is a little more general than
'interrupts-extended' since it allows any sort of "child unit address",
whether that is an actual interrupt number, or something else, is
dependent on the type of node being used.

> 
> I know interrupts-extended is preferred, but has interrupt-map support been
> removed from recent kernels?  I'm a bit confused.

'interrupt-map' support has not been removed since that is heavily used
to cross interrupt domains, e.g: PCI relies heavily on it, other buses
as well most likely.

> 
>  -- Tim Bird
> Senior Software Engineer, Sony Mobile
> Architecture Group Chair, CE Workgroup, Linux Foundation
> 

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From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Tim Bird <tbird20d@gmail.com>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] of/irq: lookup 'interrupts-extended' property first
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:12:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53E2A85A.8030406@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+bK7J7LQq4S70ScSynbLTjNMmP=9n3KD2suYRg9JN+pEv-Y7g@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/06/2014 02:50 PM, Tim Bird wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Brian Norris
> <computersforpeace@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 01:42:08PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:00:01AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>> I think it is important that a device tree provide some flexibility on
>>>> kernel versions. We only invented 'interrupts-extended' in Linux 3.13,
>>>> so it's easy to have device trees that could work only on 3.13+.
>>>>
>>>> Typically, we might say that new features require new kernels, but this
>>>> is a very basic piece of the DT infrastructure. In our case, we have
>>>> hardware whose basic features can be supported by a single interrupt
>>>> parent, and so we used the 'interrupts' property pre-3.13. But when we
>>>> want to add some power management features, there's an additional
>>>> interrupt parent. Under the current DT binding, we have to switch over
>>>> to using 'interrupts-extended' exclusively, and thus we must have a
>>>> completely new DTB for >=3.13, and this DTB no longer works with the old
>>>> kernels.
>>>
>>> "Must have" to enable the new features?
>>
>> Yes. The new feature requires an additional interrupt parent, and so it
>> requires interrupts-extended.
> 
> Hold on there.  What about interrupt-map?  That was the traditional DT
> feature for
> supporting multi-parented interrupts.  Why couldn't the feature have been added
> using that instead of interrupts-extended?

As far as I read it from the ePAPR specification, you have a good point
here, it looks like 'interrupt-map' could have been used as-is instead
of 'interrupts-extended'. In fact it is a little more general than
'interrupts-extended' since it allows any sort of "child unit address",
whether that is an actual interrupt number, or something else, is
dependent on the type of node being used.

> 
> I know interrupts-extended is preferred, but has interrupt-map support been
> removed from recent kernels?  I'm a bit confused.

'interrupt-map' support has not been removed since that is heavily used
to cross interrupt domains, e.g: PCI relies heavily on it, other buses
as well most likely.

> 
>  -- Tim Bird
> Senior Software Engineer, Sony Mobile
> Architecture Group Chair, CE Workgroup, Linux Foundation
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-06 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-19 23:33 [PATCH] of/irq: lookup 'interrupts-extended' property first Florian Fainelli
     [not found] ` <1403220823-19444-1-git-send-email-f.fainelli-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-31 18:00   ` Florian Fainelli
2014-07-31 18:00     ` Florian Fainelli
2014-08-06 16:54     ` Brian Norris
2014-08-06 18:42       ` Rob Herring
2014-08-06 18:42         ` Rob Herring
2014-08-06 20:12         ` Brian Norris
2014-08-06 21:50           ` Tim Bird
2014-08-06 21:50             ` Tim Bird
     [not found]             ` <CA+bK7J7LQq4S70ScSynbLTjNMmP=9n3KD2suYRg9JN+pEv-Y7g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-06 22:12               ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2014-08-06 22:12                 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-08-15 12:56                 ` Grant Likely
2014-08-06 22:24             ` Rob Herring

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